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Offline kevvosa

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« on: April 02, 2005, 10:26:21 am »
Sad news even if you're not religious? 
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2005, 01:04:48 pm »
Yes.  It's sad.  He hasn't got long.  Did you know he was a professional footballer in the 1930's? A Goalkeeper apparently.
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2005, 08:09:30 pm »
How old is he?
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2005, 08:43:47 pm »

Yes, it is sad for many people. However, I wish the media would leave it alone. They keeping making ridiculous statements such as "he is in a pre death state" and "his condition is notably compromised"


Why don't they let the poor bugger get on with it?


I thought he was a big right-wing for my taste but he was obviously loved world-wide.

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2005, 09:32:33 pm »

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I thought he was a big right-wing for my taste but he was obviously loved world-wide.


Yes, but don't you think Castro is a bit of a capitalist?


 


The Pope is 84, time to rest.

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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2005, 10:04:44 pm »
I liked the way they kept saying yesterday that he was quite lucid then mentioned in passing that he couldn't actually speak!
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2005, 10:33:24 pm »
84 is a good age.
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2005, 11:41:58 pm »

May he rest in peace. Bless him.


Yes Paulham, i do think Castro is a bit of a facist!!!!

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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2005, 12:04:19 am »
Ok, how long does he reasonably lie there, before it starts getting REALLY awkward?
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2005, 10:09:56 am »
I hate to say it but I can't feel any sorrow over this. He was a bigoted old man who was happy to see women and homosexuals held back or punished because of who they were. Maybe it's part and parcel of the Catholic church, but I shan't be shedding any tears for him.
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2005, 04:39:47 pm »

That is a brave statement Smurfboy and I agree with every word of it. It is sad for the people who loved and respected him but I will mourn the death of James Callaghan more.


By the way, if anyone needs a pope mobile with only one previous careful owner I know where there's one going cheap.

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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2005, 07:16:32 pm »
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By the way, if anyone needs a pope mobile with only one previous careful owner I know where there's one going cheap.



  It always reminded me of that old Dave Allen sketch.  According to the programme about DA recently it actually inspired the pope to get one!

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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2005, 08:32:51 pm »

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I hate to say it but I can't feel any sorrow over this. He was a bigoted old man who was happy to see women and homosexuals held back or punished because of who they were. Maybe it's part and parcel of the Catholic church, but I shan't be shedding any tears for him.


How true. If you live by your religion, you must accept it, warts and all. It is the the way most religions are. You cannot believe parts of it whilst ignoring that which you don't like or disbelieve.


Some say it is about interpretation. I say it is about a group of people trying to control the masses to their own ends.


I believe in a higher presence(?), but religions for me are corrupt-morally and spiritually, probably by people who later tailor them to their own ends.

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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2005, 10:05:42 pm »

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I hate to say it but I can't feel any sorrow over this. He was a bigoted old man who was happy to see women and homosexuals held back or punished because of who they were. Maybe it's part and parcel of the Catholic church, but I shan't be shedding any tears for him.


I think as a spiritual leader and one who truly believed in rightousness he was a great man.  He also tried to bring many other people from different religions together.  However his teachings on non-contracepton has cost the lives of many thousands, if not millions of Africans.  For this history will not treat him kindly.


May his soul rest in peace. 

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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2005, 10:22:25 pm »
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 For this history will not treat him kindly.


May his soul rest in peace. 



To you and I not, perhaps. However you forget the power of the Catholic church. As I write I believe there is talk of beatifying him.


To talk against any formalised religion is to literally fart against thunder. I apologise if my flippancy causes offence, but I think the analogy suits perfectly.


I concur with your last statement.

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