The BNP on Question Time

[oldspice]

Well, the anti-facists did not want Griffin to appear on the programme and almost succeeded in stopping him from entering the building but it seems he has made it through.

My feelings are that he should be allowed to express his views (as long as he does not incite racial hatred) because that is the best chance of challenging him and showing him up to be the stupid prat that he is.

Additionally, having all the facists in one party makes it less likely that they will be hiding in other, more rational political parties.

What do others think?

[Forth Bridges]

This is UK, EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT, and if we let the prat with the hock to open his gab then Mr nip has the right aswell. 

also it may show how bad he is .....

I agree with you Oldspice:

[drterror666]

They'll give him enough rope, you'll see...

[oldspice]

Well, as I expected, he made a right dick of himself. I am positive he would not have gained many supporters based on that performance.

[Forth Bridges]

I still wish there had a few more other questions like Postal stirke. or new poppy appeal

[drterror666]

Just read the BNP manifesto.  It's total comedy!

[smurfboy]

I didn't see it as I was out; I was disappointed as I'm a fan of Question Time anyway, but this was definitely going to be worth a look. I can see why some people think letting Griffin go on was almost a 'commercial break' for the BNP, but it makes me laugh that government ministers were criticising the BBC for letting it happen when nothing has been done to stop the BNP standing in elections! Surely the fact that they're allowed to stand is a bigger issue than them appearing on a political programme? Plus as Oldspice says, hopefully it will show them up for the ridiculous extremists they are; and if a few disgruntled voters who just want tighter immigration controls saw it and realised this mob aren't the answer, so much the better.

[drterror666]

Surely the fact that they're allowed to stand is a bigger issue than them appearing on a political programme?

Well, we are supposed to be a democracy.  Everyone should have a voice no matter how controversial.

[oldspice]

Ha! Nick Griffin's argument for letting him go on the programme was that it was right and proper in a democratic society to let him and his party have their fair say. Quite right too. He got his democracy - and now he doesn't like it!

[Logger]

I seriously doubt that BNP voters are the kind of people who watch Question Time and if they did they would probably be too stupid to understand the issues raised.
I think the BNP deliberately target low intellect groups who only understand things in very basic terms which is why they have had some limited success in recent times.

[drterror666]

I don't think they particularly target people of low intelligence.  I'd argue that there is a cross section of both intelligent and not so intelligent people who hold true a certain view of Nationalism and may vote BNP.  I would also argue that there are also a cross section of both intelligent and not so intelligent people who think they're a bunch of twats!

The BNP have to understand that what it is to be British, and therefore Nationalist, has changed in the 21st century.

[DrWho]

It was right to let him on Question Time, since his views, though bonkers are not inciting hatred.  I think the format of the show was unfairly loaded against him though and might have gained him a sympathy vote from those inclined towards such views.  From listening to people at work etc, I'm fairly certain several million people in the UK hold racist views to varying degrees.  The all white only rand of the BNP is probably embraced by tens or hundreds of thousands.  The BNP have fed off disaffected white working class voters, who have largely been abandoned by the labour party.  Griffin and his crew have taken advantage of the genuine concerns of modern immigration to peddle their particularly nasty brand of racism.  What made me laugh on Thursday's programme was his attempt to back up his ideas with science.  He said that the indigenous population of the UK can be traced back to people living here 17,000 years go.  That's not true.  OK maybe someone somewhere might have a gene or two but the modern 'white' British people are made up of varying proportions of the following.

Celts from Eastern, Central and Southern Europe (1,200 BC - 400 AD)
Various minorities from Asia and Africa during the Roman occupation of Britain (54BC - c350 AD)
Angles/Saxons and Jutes from north Central Europe (c500 - c900 AD)
Danes from Norway and Denmark (778 - c900 AD)
Normans from France (11C AD )

[oldspice]

Immigration is not a problem in this country. What IS a problem is ALL TYPES of people not doing their bit. Griffin would like Britain's ethnic mix to return to the pre 1948 mostly-white majority. Then what?? What about all the dirty jobs many of those whites didn't what to do? The vacancies were filled by immigrants.

Do you know who I'd like to kick out of this country? The bastards who terrorised a mother and her handicapped daughter until the mother poured petrol over he car and killed them both. The f*ckwits who beat people to death for objecting to their obnoxious behaviour. The sh*tbags who raised the boy who shot an 11 year old child on his way home from football. I'd like to say goodbye to all the lazy, usless, moronic chavs who think the world owes them a living. Before we start banging on about immigrants, we should look at some of our own 'indigenous' types and think about getting rid of them!

[DrWho]

Well said Oldspice. 

[drterror666]

Maybe we should look at society to see where it's going wrong and why the problem is being ignored.  There are plenty of mentally ill people out there and the first you know about them is when they kill someone.  It could have been stopped, but the government doesn't want to know.