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« on: March 21, 2008, 10:59:45 am »
In my opinion there are far too many people in prison who should not be there and far too many people let out of prison who should never be free. 
 

Anyone under the age of 21 who commits a non-violent crime should be given special rehabilitation classes and only given a custodial offence if they reoffend. 

 

Posession of catergory C drug of should receive non-custodial sentence.

 

Anyone who comits rape or murder should receive 30 years mandatory prison sentence.

 

Armed robbery should receive 15 years mandatory sentence.

 

Rape/murder of a child (12 or under) should receive whole life tariff.

 

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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2008, 12:42:25 pm »
The Saudis have got it right.
Personally, I would make a day of it to see a beheading. Take the kids with you, have a picnic and visit the shop for those little "trinkets".

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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2008, 12:55:09 pm »

I don't think age comes into it with rape. Why is raping a 13 year-old only half as bad as raping a 12 year-old?


I do agree there are too many people in prison for minor crimes though. The trouble is that when the government try to change this they're going 'soft on crime' Wacko
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2008, 09:18:26 am »
A case in point today.  A judge's ruling not to give a custodial sentence to a 17 year old youth for sexually intefering with two minors has been referred to the court of appeal.  The same judge last year sentenced a 24 year old man two years for raping a 10 year old girl.  He added insult to injury by saying, 'the girl was dressed provocatively and could have been taken for 16'.  How can a 10 year old girl be dressed provocatively.  The court of appeal increased the sentence to - wait for it - four years!  Both the trial and appeal judges should be ashamed and be sacked.  It is such outrageous rulings, which make me so angry!  Has this country's judiciary lost the plot or what?

Smurfboy, your question of 12/13 years is a good one.  Rape/murder of any age is unnaceptable.  Not quite sure why I wrote that.

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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2008, 01:29:24 pm »
How can a 10 year-old be dressed 'provactively'? And even if she is, why does a judge - someone who is supposed to uphold laws and morals - think that means she deserves to be raped? It's disgusting.
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2008, 03:27:29 pm »
If a 24 year old, and for that matter a judge, cannot tell the difference between a 10 year old and a 16 year old, they both deserve to be locked up for public safety's sake.  And in any case, even if she did look 16 and even if she was 16, does that excuse rape?
 

 
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2008, 05:56:49 pm »
Nothing excuses sexual assault of any kind.
I know that being a woman I have a different view of this to most men, but it ought to be safe to wander around wearing whatever you like, or nothing if you like, without a man thinking that this means you are 'fair game'.

To my mind it doesn't matter what you look like or what you are wearing or not wearing, you have the right to be safe. It is up to men to control themselves. I cannot think I have ever heard of a situation where a nicely dressed young man walking alone at night was attacked by a woman. And yet men attack young women in these situations all the time. The papers are full of their stories, and these are only the ones that actuallly report it.

I know there are some wonderful men out there, and I know there are some truly vile women out there too, and perhaps it is just that the nice young men don't report the incidents, so that's why we don't hear about them.

But to me the more acceptable it is to think that any woman dressed in a way that could be termed provocative is 'asking for it', then the easier and easier it becomes to lower the age when such things are not looked upon as all that unusual.

If a 10 year old can now be partly blamed for her attack because she "led him on" by the way she was dressed,  then I fear for the future of all our daughters, no matter what their age.

Rape is not acceptable, no matter what age, what sex or what provocation. The right to say no and be heard should be a right we all have.

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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2008, 06:00:39 pm »
Sorry I should have put:
I know that being a woman I have a different view of this to some men.

I am not a man hater, but I do hate men like the ones we're discussing.

But even so many men I'm sure, would not hurt a woman in such a way, and I didn't mean to infer that they would. 

I am very sorry, and please can I have an edit button?

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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2008, 10:25:59 am »
Well said MayRae.Clap
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2008, 08:31:20 pm »
Quote from: MayRae
Sorry I should have put:
I know that being a woman I have a different view of this to some men.

I am not a man hater, but I do hate men like the ones we're discussing.

But even so many men I'm sure, would not hurt a woman in such a way, and I didn't mean to infer that they would. 

I am very sorry, and please can I have an edit button?

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No need to be sorry, MayRae and can I say you are looking very provocative tonight?

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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2008, 12:30:52 am »
You can, and thankyou. Smile
 

Do you like the blouse I'm wearing? Someone once said it was very nice. LOL

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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2008, 12:34:54 am »
I've just come back from a night out in Newcastle and I am disgusted in how many older men are leering on young girls and I heard men talking about young girls in short skirts saying they are "obviously up for it". When I was younger I always went out in short skirts because that was the fashion but it didn't mean I was available for any man to have sex with me. 
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2008, 12:58:35 am »
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When I was younger I always went out in short skirts because that was the fashion but it didn't mean I was available for any man to have sex with me. 

I don't think it means that now, at least not to most people. It's just the few awful ones out there have the biggest mouths and loudest voices.
I don't think you'll ever stop older people watching younger people in that hungry 'wish I was xxx amount of years younger' way.

I think it's normal to feel like you wish you were young enough for some of the cuter members of the younger generation to find you attractive.

The problem only comes when the issue is forced on someone who isn't interested, and thankfully most of them don't act on the way they feel.

The ones who do should be dealt with severly.

I wish the way a lot of men view women would change. And I believe it will, but women have to stand up for themselves and make that change happen.

Until then, what a bunch of people who don't know you, decide they can tell about you, based solely on what you're wearing doesn't really change the person you are in any way. So what they have to say is not really that important as long as talking about it is all they're doing.

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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2008, 02:49:09 pm »

I am definitely a look and not touch guy.  I do a lot of looking though and I'm not afraid to tell a girl she looks nice.  It's amazing how many girls respond positively to genuine compliments.


I firmly believe girls/women of any age should be able to dress as they wish without fear of harrassment.