The ban

[smurfboy]

It was a major hot potato the last time we discussed it, but I just know there's going to be a thread, so I may as well start it:

England goes smoke-free on July 1st. How do you feel about it?

I think everyone knows I am in favour of the ban, but what I find interesting is that all the smokers I know are in favour too. Yes, they're moaning that they'll have to stand outside, but they also believe it will help them give up, or at least cut down.

[goldencup]

Very much in favour! 

It's about 400 years too late.  At last I can breath clean air if I go to a pub.  The best thing this government has done by a long way, as well as working on the Good Friday agreement (though that was started by John Major).

[Cherry_Ripe]

I am in favour of the ban.

My only concern is that if we get rid of designated smoking areas, the smokers are going to stand outside the door / window instead. So with the windows open, places which were smoke free will fill up with the smoke of people who used to smoke (far away) in a designated place.

 

I hope there is a smoke free zone around buildings but I don't know if that will be the case.

[wjp666]

i'm in favour of the ban in general... but i'm not in favour of banning smoke from pubs. i don't smoke, but i truly think that people like to go to pubs to drink and smoke. it should be up to the proprietor/landlord whether they choose to have a smoke-free pub or not. it should not be law.

 

my old philosophy - if you don't like smoke, stay out of pubs! you're not forced to go there. (and that goes for barstaff too. you don't hear astronauts whining about the strain re-entry into the earths atmosphere has on their bodies. it goes with the occupation.)

 

i remember this causing a major uproar on the forum last time: so remember, this is just one guys opinion.

 

*in twenty years from now when they're banning alcohol in pubs, remember this post...*

[oldspice]

I am in favour of the ban.

My only concern is that if we get rid of designated smoking areas, the smokers are going to stand outside the door / window instead. So with the windows open, places which were smoke free will fill up with the smoke of people who used to smoke (far away) in a designated place.

 

I hope there is a smoke free zone around buildings but I don't know if that will be the case.

 

 

In theory, there should be a smoke-free zone around the buildings so that smoke does not blow into the smoke-free area.  Our college is going to ban ALL smoking inside the college gates which are hundreds of yards from the entrances. Staff are being given free therapy to help them give up and they will not be allowed to have fag breaks during the working day.

 

I am in favour of the ban.

[smurfboy]

 

my old philosophy - if you don't like smoke, stay out of pubs! you're not forced to go there. (and that goes for barstaff too. you don't hear astronauts whining about the strain re-entry into the earths atmosphere has on their bodies. it goes with the occupation.)

 

[wjp666]

 

my old philosophy - if you don't like smoke, stay out of pubs! you're not forced to go there. (and that goes for barstaff too. you don't hear astronauts whining about the strain re-entry into the earths atmosphere has on their bodies. it goes with the occupation.)

 

[smurfboy]

 

it's just further proof that everything is becoming family orientated, and pubs are being made more appropriate for children to inhabit. i truly believe kids have no business whatsoever in a pub. in my opinion, it's just not a place to take kids. this is what worries me the most...

 

I agree that kids don't belong in pubs, but in the same way you argue for smoking and non-smoking areas in pubs, there are plenty of over 18s only bars - surely those who don't want to share a pub with kids can go to those?

[oldspice]

Later today I am attending the funeral of a dear cousin who died from lung cancer. She never smoked but was exposed to cigarette smoke for over thirty years.  She was just 49 years old. I watched her in her last hours, when the cancer had gone to her brain and it is a sight that will live with me for a very long time.

[goldencup]

I don't understand why pubs should be just for smokers and drinkers.  Plenty of people (like me) enjoy going to the pub for a drink (alcoholic or not) a chat, sometimes a quiz and maybe a meal (preferably without the children).  Rather than more pubs becoming family friendly (not necessarily a good thing I agree) round here more and more of them are over 21s only.  Then people wonder why the teenagers are drinking on the streets.  Where are they supposed to go?  They're too old for youth clubs etc.

goldencup2007-06-20 09:15:42

Ale Houses were around along time before tobacco was introduced into this country.  Pubs are for drinking, socializing and playing dominoes.  They are NOT for smoking.  Smoking is just something, which some people have brought with them.  The ban will return pubs (Ale Houses) to their original function - with clean air!

[wjp666]

   there are plenty of over 18s only bars - surely those who don't want to share a pub with kids can go to those?

 

maybe it's different where you are, but we haven't got a single one down here anymore. (and this is primarily a pub town.)

[goldencup]

I'll send my sons and their mates down there then - as I said earlier - round here they're nearly all Over 21s, never mind 18s.

[oldspice]

We have a good mix up here if you want to travel a few miles to find what you want.  There are loads of family pubs in town, plenty that cater for the 18-25 age group and those that play live specialist music. What we do lack is a smoke-free, kiddie-free, music-free pub where you can sit and drink anything (soft drinks, coffee, alcohol), eat decent food and enjoy some intteligent conversation. A pub like this for the 35+ sector would be great.