Fruit and veg for the poor

[Velvet Darkness]

     @ oldspice

Thankyou.

Velvet.

[oldspice]

That should read 'pardon'!

[smurfboy]

I think it is a sad reflection on our society that people still think of people like me as 'The Poor', simply because we are not as well off as others. As for the idea that all mothers of low income families spend all their money feeding their children crap, well honestly I would laugh if it didn't make me feel so much like crying....

'They'll probably still spend them at McDonalds'. What am I supposed to say to this?

Perhaps "Not if my dealer will take them for heroin???"

I think this scheme has the potential to be one of the finest additions to the welfare bill in this country for many years. I only hope that it is given a fair chance by whoever takes over the reins when Tony Blair retires from office.

I completely agree on the McDonalds comment (see my earlier response). Apart from being rude and stereotypical, it was also poorly thought out. But I should say I don't think Lou meant 'poor' as an insult.

[kevvosa]

At the moment I don't have a job, so I'd class myself as 'poor' and I will say that it's true that many people around where I live do spend their money on junk. That's because you can go to the market and get vast amounts of chocolate and sweets for really cheap prices - plus it's more appealing than vegetables. I see loads more overweight 'poor' people at the market than anywhere else.

Personally I don't spend all my money on junk but like most people I do get sweets and chocolates now and then, mostly at weekends.

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[loulou]

I think I should explain that I did copy and paste the original post from the bbc news and that they did title the article as 'fruit and veg for the poor'. so they are bbc words not mine. I don't really class unemployed people or single mothers as poor. To me the poor are the homeless.

[Velvet Darkness]

Personally Lou Lou I see no reason for the manner of your post above which makes you appear very rude, and I am sure you aren't really.

At no point in my post did I say that I blamed Lou Lou for calling me poor, I merely stated that I objected to being called poor, which I do.

The BBC appear to think that anyone who does not earn a four figure income each week after tax is poor. But that does not give them, or anyone, the right to judge me. I am more than my income.

I buy sweets and chocolate, of course I do, otherwise why would I be here on 'The Chocolate Forum'. I absolutely love the stuff and probably eat far more of it than I should. (Galaxy is my fave at the moment.)  I object to the assumption that just because I am on benefit I feed my children at MacDonalds. It is as Smurfboy said so stereotypical and rude that I was quite amazed.

They'll probably still spend them at McDonalds

Yeah, that's right. McDonalds are going to take government fruit and veg vouchers. I suppose they'll start taking chocolate coins and fresh air too.

Loved that   Absolutely priceless. Though I'm not sure I would give them my chocolate coins anyway Smurfboy!!! No-one gets those.

And I must admit kevvosa when given the choice between an apple and a bar of chocolate I don't usually have to think too long before reaching for the choccy.  But I do have a fairly balanced diet.

(1 equally sized bar of chocolate in each hand.)

 

Hershey's chocolate kisses to everyone.

Velvet.

[oldspice]

George Orwell once noted that the price of fish and chips and a cinema ticket were cheaper than than the price of a healthy lifestyle and that these 'luxuries' kept 'the poor' from revolution.

He would be shocked at the price of a cinema ticket these days, I'm sure.

I am sorry if I offended anyone.  

My comments were fuelled by my suspicions of this government's motives and policies.  If they hadn't spent all the money ****ing up Iraq how many vegetables could they have afforded then?

Just one little tip Velvet, courgettes are best steamed.  

[oldspice]

Although I agree that ionvading Iraq was a terrible sin, this governmant has done more to help people on a low income than any other since the 1948 Welfare Reform Act.

Not only that, but they are trying to tackle the causes of poverty - low aspiration (Sure Start programmes are trying to address this), single parenthood (schemes to help single mums and dads back into the workplace) poor basic skills (The National Literacy and Numeracy Project) heating allowances, the minimum wage - I could  go on...

[smurfboy]

People conveniently forget that the Conservatives also took this country into war as recently as 1982 - the difference being they did nothing worthwhile to make up for it during 18 years in power.

[smurfboy]

Personally Lou Lou I see no reason for the manner of your post above which makes you appear very rude, and I am sure you aren't really.

I don't see how Lou was rude - she simply corrected a misunderstanding.

[kevvosa]

I think it was the bold text that did it. It amazes me how often people interpret things written online as aggressive when usually they're not. 

[loulou]

Seems I can't win. The bold text was to make sure it stood out and was read and was not skipped. I'm sure you realised that really velvet.

[Velvet Darkness]

Just one little tip Velvet, courgettes are best steamed.

Well there's been enough hot steam through this post to do a few pans of them to a turn.

Although I agree that ionvading Iraq was a terrible sin, this governmant has done more to help people on a low income than any other since the 1948 Welfare Reform Act.

Not only that, but they are trying to tackle the causes of poverty - low aspiration (Sure Start programmes are trying to address this), single parenthood (schemes to help single mums and dads back into the workplace) poor basic skills (The National Literacy and Numeracy Project) heating allowances, the minimum wage - I could  go on...

Absolutely agree with all of that, never could stand the tories and the way they sold everything for a fast buck.

People conveniently forget that the Conservatives also took this country into war as recently as 1982 - the difference being they did nothing worthwhile to make up for it during 18 years in power.

Absolutely.

Seems I can't win. The bold text was to make sure it stood out and was read and was not skipped. I'm sure you realised that really velvet.

I really hadn't realised that loulou, it simply looked as if you were shouting in print.

It would seem that there have been misunderstandings between us on both sides and if I apologise to you for mine and my way of dealing with them then I at least am back on track.

So please accept my apologies loulou.

[loulou]

No need to apologise velvet. I only did my post in large bold text so it would be noticed. After posting the original post I didn't want people thinking they were my words.