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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2006, 04:34:23 pm »

It's nothing to do with that! She wanted to wear an item of jewellery - and that's all it is, jewellery - that was not allowed as part of her uniform. Didn't she read the terms and conditions of her job when she accepted it? She wasn't even forced to remove it, just conceal it.


It's not the same as a Sikh being asked to remove their turban. That is a requirement of the religion (although some more liberal Sikhs choose not to wear one). A crucifix may be a symbol of Christianity, but it has always been the individual choice of Christians whether to wear one or not - it certainly isn't required.

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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2006, 07:34:14 pm »
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A Heathrow Airport employee has said she plans to sue British Airways for religious discrimination in a row over the wearing of a cross necklace.

Check-in worker Nadia Eweida, 55, of Twickenham, said she was effectively "forced" to take unpaid leave after refusing to conceal the symbol.

BA denied it had banned the wearing of crosses.

It said its uniform policy stated that such items could be worn if concealed underneath the uniform.



DAMN RIGHT SHE CANT WEAR IT. ITS OFFENSIVE.


MY TURBAN IS FINE THOUGH.


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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2006, 07:38:30 pm »
Oh good, Easteregg is back. How I've missed him.
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« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2006, 07:04:42 am »

A man who wears a Turban would never disrespect another person's religion.

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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2006, 11:11:37 pm »
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« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2006, 06:59:26 am »
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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2006, 09:04:07 am »
As a Christian, I was greatly angered by this story.  I wear a crucifix and chain on the outside of my T shirt/pullover all the time.  It is not simply jewellery, it is a crucifix and is a symbol of my faith.  This IS a Christian country, even though we are slowly descending into secularism.

I don't care whether people want to wear the Hidjab, turbans, thongs or whatever but if anyone tried to stop me wearing my crucifix they would not find me sitting back and accepting it.  The health and safety argument is poppycock.  I hope this lady takes her case as far as possible and wins.


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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2006, 11:35:21 am »
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« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2006, 11:53:58 am »

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As a Christian, I was greatly angered by this story. I wear a crucifix and chain on the outside of my T shirt/pullover all the time. It is not simply jewellery, it is a crucifix and is a symbol of my faith. This IS a Christian country, even though we are slowly descending into secularism.

I don't care whether people want to wear the Hidjab, turbans, thongs or whatever but if anyone tried to stop me wearing my crucifix they would not find me sitting back and accepting it. The health and safety argument is poppycock. I hope this lady takes her case as far as possible and wins.


But what if you had taken a job with terms and conditions stating visible jewellery was unacceptable? No one is saying this woman should be stopped from wearing a crucifix down to the shops, when she goes out at night - what she, and you, wear in your own lives is entirely your choice. She's not even being stopped from wearing it at work! All she has to do is keep it under her blouse!


You describe it as a symbol of your faith, but it is one you wear by choice - your religion doesn't dictate that it should be worn. In practical terms it can be concealed easily, unlike a turban or veil (although as I understand it the Quran does not insist these should b worn, so I feel it is perfectly acceptable for employers to ask for these to be removed). Faith is a personal choice; why does this woman have to force it down people's throats by wearing this crucifix?


If she turned up late every day, she would be breaking the rules of her employment. If she took twice the normal lunchbreak, she would be breaking the rules. If she stole office supplies, she would be breaking the rules. Why is deciding she doesn't want to wear her uniform despite repeated warnings any different? She has lost her appeal and quite rightly so.

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« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2006, 11:56:19 am »
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« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2006, 02:37:41 pm »
Smurfy you will think differently when you start your new job and they tell you to put some clothes on and take off that white hat.
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« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2006, 02:40:40 pm »

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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2006, 07:56:05 am »
I would not take a job where the rules stipulated that I could not display my crucifix.  I do not shove it down other people's throats but it is important to me that it is displayed.  For me to deny Jesus Christ in order to keep a employer happy is a very serious thing indeed.

Incidentally my 'Yay' was in reply to Loulou's post and somehow Smurfy's got posted first.

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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2006, 08:31:41 am »
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« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2006, 09:24:32 am »
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