Author Topic: Debeat of the week ( 28th Augest) (Read 12980 times)

Forth Bridges · « **Reply #60 on:** August 31, 2006, 08:24:32 pm »

Also my mum says she would rarer stay on benefit
( and have less stafciacion if not have a job) if it mean she can actually live proabely and
having to live badly unlike half those cheat on the soicla r!

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salsa · « **Reply #61 on:** August 31, 2006, 08:29:59 pm »

The point is me and my partner live within our means. Yes he took a paycut, but that was so he could come and work here and be with me.

Now, at the time he worked in a very dangerous environment with several nasty chemicals. His grandmother worried about this and begged me when he moved here that he would have a safer job. I promised her this would be the case and he agreed that he was concerned about working with the experimental chemicals he was doing.

Those are our personal circumstances and it is a situation which suits us. Life isn't just about money and posessions, its about quality of life.

However, to someone who is saying they don't have enough cash, and they need more, work more. We are happier making sacrifices to be able to spend more time together and for my boyfriend to be safer.

Forth Bridges · « **Reply #62 on:** August 31, 2006, 08:35:42 pm »

My perent could MAKE the CUT ( there alot of people liek that) 4 kids - two set of twin - there had to work to keep there famliey going and that Houseing crarh DID NOT HELP!

my dad had to work in that factory, alot of staff that were in factory not get lung disases like very long word, it was a aslo dangouse work there woman working witl smelt work and getting toxicated with posin cheamli and there other type of nasty metail in there lungs, blood,

now if you happy then so it,

My perent couldn't go of to get anther job, there had no choice, ther had to work there,

althourgh she siad, if there had tax credit when bring up kids, sh ewoudl of been laughing!

wjp666 · « **Reply #63 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:05:07 pm »

ah, politics! along with religion, the 'touchiest' topic in history.

smurfboy · « **Reply #64 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:07:28 pm »

Quote from: salsa

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This illustrates perfectly why people would rather stay on benefits than get low paid jobs. At the moment my food budget is miniscule because I haven't got a job, but this means I can make it go further as I have the time to. I can get two 15p cans of tomatoes and some leftover veg and I have a casserole that can last for three meals. But if I took the first minimum wage job that came along I wouldn't have the time to shop around and make everything from scratch. It simply isn't worth it.

I was actually off work as I was ill, not because I was not working. I have since returned to my job full time.

I agree the difference between low paid jobs and benefits isn't good. But, you have to think of the self respect the job gives you. This gives you more than a financial benefit, it is the value of self worth.

Oh, and for the record, if you get a slo cooker it can cook for you while your out. It means you have got half a chance to do stuff from scratch while your working. This is not me preaching, its giving forward a useful suggestion.

I know you were off sick. I never said you weren't. Why are you assuming the comments were aimed at you? I was talking generally about life on benefits as someone who is experiencing it.

I think I can decide for myself whether cleaning toilets or stacking shelves would give me 'self-respect', thank you very much - and whether I need to spend my money on a slow bloody cooker!

wjp666 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:12:26 pm »

Forth Bridges · « **Reply #66 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:14:18 pm »

« **Reply #67 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:20:36 pm »

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I don't know if you are aware of this, but, the government actually subsidise businesses to have branches in Scotland.

I don't know where you live, so I can only base this search on Glasgow, however I just found this.... It isn't a building job, or anything similar.

http://www.jobsinglasgow.com/JobDetails.aspx?id=4468

Oh really? And where might you be quoting this from?

If you are talking about Scottish Enterprise for example, they are Government/Scottish Executive funded but you should take a look at the companies that have taken the money and ran. Chung-Wa to name but one.

623 lives in the Dunfermline area, not exactly 10 minutes from Glasgow.

I agree with a lot of your points Salsa but some of the postings on this thread are getting plain silly, and as everyone knows, that's my job!

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Forth Bridges · « **Reply #68 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:25:01 pm »

how do you knwo where I live

also remember Hundi, then motorala, then the next still empty after ah 10years

sinclair/ lexmake also took millions then cut job, and lemaek shut the plant down

glasgow - 50mins away , 1hour/ 5min by bus

or train - which is coimng soon in 2015

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oldspice · « **Reply #69 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:26:35 pm »

Smurfy you made a good point when you said being at home gives you the time to live more cheaply.

623 - I know i will not make myself popular by saying this but you do not HAVE to stay in Scotland if things are so bad. I am a Londoner and had to move out of London because I could not afford a home for my growing family on the wages I was earning. I had to move somewhere cheaper.

Whatever your views on poverty and however much you disagree with Salsa, you have no right to be as abusive as you were.

I am a socialist through and through and I sympathise completely with people who are genuinely in hardship. I would (and have) fight for their rights to the end but being a socialist also means that people should help themselves wherever possible - they need a hand up not a hand out.

« **Reply #70 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:27:08 pm »

You could get to Edinburgh quickly though, 623.

Forth Bridges · « **Reply #71 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:30:21 pm »

old spice
1st Ok I apolige if I sounded RUDE

2nd, I wronder of peterbourgh is a good place for jobs?

BK, with Jack Mc Connel move more goverm,ent jobs out of edinburgh - glasgow I have to wait to get a private secter job growth,

althorgh yuo know Eastern expsion ( faster growing devloplement in western eupore - I expland why there no job there) is full of edinburgh people

« **Reply #72 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:33:22 pm »

You look hard enough and want it enough, there is always a job to be hard. I have always found this. I have had 4.

Those elephants are dirty buggers though.

Forth Bridges · « **Reply #73 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:37:20 pm »

Not edinburgh ZOO? MM woudl there let me work there?

I know there are looking for the following

siththill prsion graud
counciler
durness (near dunbar) power statiosn asstaint - isnlt that necele?
tiger keeper

oldspice · « **Reply #74 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:37:59 pm »

2nd, I wronder of peterbourgh is a good place for jobs?

Compared with many cities, Peterborough has a high number of unemployed. This is because there are too many people with poor basic skills and little or no experience in any trade or vocation. This is because there is so much apathy here and very low aspirations. I have a good job because I have worked very hard to get employable qualifications. Part of my job is to skill people up for the workplace and believe me, it's an uphill struggle at times.

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Author Topic: Debeat of the week ( 28th Augest) (Read 12980 times)