I have never heard of the shops you mentioned kevvosa. Down here in the cities the main pasty sellers are Warrens and Oggy Oggy. Of the 2 I prefer Oggy Oggy however we have a local independent bakery in my town who do great pasties, and it means I don't have to travel to the city to buy a pasty. And don't forget Ginsters, I am not far from the Ginsters factory and they actually have a factory outlet shop...