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Flagrant misuse of apostrophe.
« on: November 12, 2004, 12:52:06 pm »

Someone's advertised the local Christmas fete on my bus stop.  A part read, and I quote, " See Mr's Clause and her Elve's.  Also Tombola stall's.


   


There was no mention of any chocolate.


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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2004, 01:04:20 pm »

They can't even spell Claus properly!


My pet hates include: potato's or potatos; panini's (beloved of chavvy cafes trying to smarten themselves up - the proper plural of panini is panini, and even if it was with an 's', there wouldn't be an apostrophe!)


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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2004, 01:04:50 pm »
Should have said "Stools" not "stalls" by the looks of it! I hope you will attend BH if for no other reason than to investigate, and if necessary re-educate these "people"

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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2004, 02:38:55 pm »

what is wrong with this sentence


i like chocolate loads n loads do u like chocolate


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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2004, 03:19:17 pm »
Its a statement.

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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2004, 03:27:41 pm »

Misuse of 'Their', 'There' and 'They're' drives me potty!


And 'it is', 'it's' and 'its'!!!


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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2004, 04:28:58 pm »

There is actually a society for the protection of the apostrophe!


My pet hate is plurals such as families or lorries written as family's and lorry's.

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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2004, 06:18:05 pm »

Mixing up 'your' and 'you're' drives me mad!  Aren't we sad?

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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2004, 06:53:14 pm »

I'm currently studying on a post-graduate course (Literacy in Society) and I have to write an essay about the use of standard English. I have to consider what our motives are for teaching standard English - are they economical (if you write and speak well you are more employable, therefore can earn a higher income) or is it just that socciety looks down on people who don't speak and write proper English?


Another issue we are considering is that of accent and its link to culture, education and achievement. Are we very snobby about certain accents?


 

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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2004, 07:02:15 pm »
That sounds really interesting - I'm fascinated by regional differences, not just accents but actual words and phrases used in different areas of the country. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2004, 07:26:57 pm »

Oldspice- We have always been funny about accent and tend to make value judgements about them; Peter Trudgill has done a lot of work on this.  There is certainly a broad correlation between accent and social class.  However, particularly in my experience it has little to do with content and many speakers choose to keep their local accent rather than modifying it, e.g Dennis Skinner and the sadly departed Fred Dibnah.


I'm not sure why Standard English is prefered and I suspect it is considered less and less important except for in the highest circles.  Many dialects are perfectly good forms of English, but when we write I believe Standard English is best. 


Some Nottingham dialect e.g. Didja gerrowt?  or woze we isen?  mean little to the outsider and it's important to not let spoken local English intrude on the written word.  IMO


 


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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2004, 08:30:21 am »

If you read Sue Townsend's The Queen and I you will see how a posh accent can make you hard to understand as well as a regional accent!


Some celebs with regional accents have actually exaggerated (spelling??) their speech to make them sound even more 'cockney' or 'scouse' - for example Cilla Black ("Clurr's got loovly furr hurr"). Some people even adopt a regional accent that does not really belong to them - thus Barry Fry - Manager of Peterborough United - speaks 'mockney' - an exaggerated and false cockney accent - he comes from Bedford!

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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2004, 09:59:41 am »
I don't blame him.  The Bedford accent is neither here nor there.  Oldspice, I guess you know what an isogloss is?

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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2004, 12:10:15 pm »
Well I don't - please enlighten me!  (I have a boring Southern England type accent, but I do find I adjust it according to who I'm talking to!)
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2004, 03:52:34 pm »
An isogloss is a fluid boundary between accents and pronounciations.  Ah Goldencup, voluntary modification of the accent is typical of the upper working to lower middle class.  Do you fall within this social group?