Author Topic: Smoking ’ban’ (Read 6357 times)

« **on:** October 27, 2005, 02:51:27 pm »

What a fudge (fudge ah!), sorry... what a fudge this government's smoking ban is. Apparently smoking will be banned in pubs that serve food. However sausage rolls and crisps wont count as food. Smoking will be allowed in private member clubs.

Personally, I am sick of smokers and their pollution. Why can't we just have an outright ban in all public places as they have got in Ireland and will have soon in Wales and Scotland. Why does England have to be different?

Come on Tony Blair, get wiv de program and give us all cleaner air to breath when we go for a drink and etc.

Forth Bridges · « **Reply #1 on:** October 27, 2005, 04:45:38 pm »

come to SCOTLADN it going to happen here next MARCH Horay!

smurfboy · « **Reply #2 on:** October 27, 2005, 06:11:53 pm »

On one hand I think that we already live in too much of a nanny state. But then again, my policy has always been 'do what you like as long as you're not harming others' - and passive smoking DOES harm others. If people want to kill themselves they can do it at home!

loulou · « **Reply #3 on:** October 27, 2005, 06:56:23 pm »

I hate coming home with my hair and clothes smelling smokey because everyone in the pub wants to light up.

oldspice · « **Reply #4 on:** October 27, 2005, 07:09:31 pm »

I can't stand being around people who smoke. It hurts my eyes, makes my chest sore, leaves my clothes and hair smelling foul and costs them a packet in money and health problems. Why do people do it? Let them sit or stand outside, it's a good incentive for them to give up.

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goldencup · « **Reply #6 on:** October 27, 2005, 08:27:48 pm »

minty · « **Reply #7 on:** October 27, 2005, 09:18:10 pm »

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« **Reply #8 on:** October 27, 2005, 09:27:53 pm »

Spare a thought for us who have to enforce it!

Incidentally some said once that if tobacco were to be introduced to the world today, at best, it would be considered a class c drug if not a or b. So why do we learn more and more of its dangers yet carry on like everyone has a right to ignore such findings because we have to give smokers their "rights".

Oh, and don't get me started on alcohol!

Forth Bridges · « **Reply #9 on:** October 27, 2005, 10:17:35 pm »

well it stange taht in scoland it getting ban YEt a scotman * Dr ried " doesn't want it in england!

« **Reply #10 on:** October 28, 2005, 12:19:36 am »

The dichotomy expressed by 623 is a classic example of the 'West Lothian Question'. Notwithstanding this dilemma, I still don't understand why what's good for the Scotland is not sauce for England.

Paul's reference to alcohol is relevant, as while we are considering banning smoking, whatever that means, we are making it easier for people to drink with more lenient licensing laws. While the effects of drinking are not as direct as those of smoking they are actually worse indirectly given the antisocial behaviour and strain on the NHS they create.

I would ban smoking in ALL public places period. Drinking is clearly a different kettle of fish but still needs 'controlling' somehow in order to curb its il effects.

loulou · « **Reply #11 on:** October 28, 2005, 12:23:55 am »

When I worked at the psychiatric hospital thousands of people came and went with alcohol addiction. Some were as young as 17 hooked on alcopops. I am so against alcopops and think they should be banned.

lorri · « **Reply #12 on:** October 28, 2005, 12:25:16 am »

are the pubs that are going to stop serving food to get round it going to allow you to bring fish and chips or kfc with you lol

oldspice · « **Reply #13 on:** October 28, 2005, 10:54:08 am »

The alcohol issue is so important. As Lou says, there are thousands of people with serious alcohol addiction - some of them in their teens. As well as the social problems concerned with alcohol addiction (homelessness, being unable to secure or maintain employment, violence etc) the effect on a person's health and mental state is devastating.

Yet in the last ten or fifteen years all we have seen from the government is deregulation concerning the availability of alcohol. In Peterborough we have dozens of clubs and bars where you can drink for twenty hours a day. The government seem to think being able to spread out your drinking will prevent short binges but that's rubbish. Just look at how some Brits behave when on holiday abroad - they drink for a fortnight solidly.

Alcopops? I can't imagine why they are allowed to be manufactured and sold. They exist purely to lure young people into alcohol consumption at an early age. They are deadly. Some of the independent shops where I live will happily sell alcohol - especially alcopops to 14 year-olds, knowing they will get plastered and most likey end up indulging in criminal damamge or GBH.

It's a terrible world we live in.

loulou · « **Reply #14 on:** October 28, 2005, 11:50:01 am »

sometimes I can't put into words what I mean then along comes oldspice and explains it perfectly.

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Author Topic: Smoking ’ban’ (Read 6357 times)