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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2005, 06:50:20 am »
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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2005, 10:03:55 am »
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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2005, 12:22:07 pm »


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Everyone cheer on England in the Ashes and let's smash those smug Aussies. 


Somehow, I don't think that's going to happen. ;)



I wouldn't exactly say that the English team particularly deserved to
win at Edgebaston, comparing the performance of the two teams ...


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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2005, 12:50:29 pm »
Keen on watching cricket are you martinch?
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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2005, 12:57:55 pm »
loulou: well, I play it, and have been ill, so I watched the last match.

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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2005, 01:06:05 pm »
I am with you there lou. David had it on yesterday morning so I snuggled up next to him and had a little sleep 

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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2005, 05:40:05 pm »

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Everyone cheer on England in the Ashes and let's smash those smug Aussies. 

Somehow, I don't think that's going to happen. ;)

I wouldn't exactly say that the English team particularly deserved to win at Edgebaston, comparing the performance of the two teams ...


You're kidding.  England were the better side.  Flintoff was man of the match by a mile.


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« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2005, 09:30:16 am »

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You're kidding.  England were the better side.  Flintoff was man of the match by a mile.


Nope.  While Flintoff did play well, especially considering his
"injured" condition, I cannot think that England played consistantly
better than Australia. 



In my (honest) opinion, neither side batted "well" in the first 2
innings - yes, a lot of runs were scored at a ridiculous rate, but (and
here's the thing), nearly all of the batsmen that were dismissed were
dismissed by "soft dismissal" - that is, they got themselves out. 
If you look at England's 1st innings, of the recognised batsmen that
got under 50, 4 got themselves out, after 3 of them made a start (plus
Trescothick's awful shot to get out on 90...) - that's not good. 
The Aussies were nearly as bad, with 3.  England's second innings
was particularly woefull - if it weren't for Flintoff, they'd have been
really in "it".  Only 1 of the top 8 batsmen made more than
25.  Three of the others made starts (got 20), and then got
out.  That's never a good sign (I know Shane Warne was on very
good form, but still...).  Australia's second innings ... I'll
leave most of that as "obvious", but I will say that England's bowling
was quite crap - when the opposition need 108 to win, conceding at
least 12 byes, and 15 no balls is not the thing to do! (England gave
away 40 extras, a large amount on the last day...)



Well, that's just my (bowlers') opinion!



* In reference to "making starts", by the time a batsman's made 15-20,
they're "in" (in terms of settling, judging line-and-length well,
etc).  If a (recognised) batsman gets out for 20-30, they've
generally got themselves out.


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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2005, 03:04:31 am »

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


cricket stats?? whats this forum coming to?


i'm with you, Loulou - you summed up the game perfectly.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2005, 06:49:17 am »
Martinch, it was a classic wicket, which gave a bit for the bowler and yet was worth batting on too.  You're not always going to get centuries and because you don't, it doesn't make it bad batting.  It was a competitive game of cricket where both sides had their moments, particularly Flintoff's boundaries and the considerably wagging tail of the Aussies.  I think you are too critical.  I respect your views though.

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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2005, 09:58:47 am »
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Martinch, it was a classic wicket, which gave a
bit for the bowler and yet was worth batting on too.


Well, towards the end, yes, but I'd still say it was "flat"



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You're not always going to get centuries and
because you don't, it doesn't make it bad batting.


I didn't say that ... all I was saying was that once you get past about
20 it is generally the batsman that gets themselves out, not the bowler
getting the batsman out.



That's my experience anyway - I consitantly get people out who've got
40-80 before within 6 balls because they think "oooh, it's a spinner, I
can smack them!", but it's just them playing a daft shot...



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It was a competitive game of cricket where both
sides had their moments, particularly Flintoff's boundaries and the
considerably wagging tail of the Aussies.


Agreed



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I think you are too critical.


I probably am.  I'm forever whinging about minor things



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I respect your views though.


Thanks - there are numerous views on this game, all as valid as the next


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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2005, 10:20:01 am »
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2005, 10:35:49 am »
I'm too young and male for you 

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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2005, 06:14:55 pm »
No-one is too male for bounty.
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