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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2007, 02:41:23 pm »
flicking through the kids big book of fairy tales, i was horrified by some of the changes. the giant in jack and the beanstal had his little rhyme changed, AND he didn't die at the end. the billy goats gruff weren't so violent to the nasty troll. and the deer's heart extraction from snow white was removed. it's all so very confusing!
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2007, 04:17:14 pm »
It's a scary world so I think kids should know about nasty things. I always though there was a moral behind fairy stories to teach kids lessons about life.

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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2007, 02:55:27 am »
Firstly a rainbow is now quite a popular symbol for the gay movement so does that mean we now have what amounts to Baa baa gay sheep?
 

And the trouble with James Bond is that Ian Fleming wrote him as a white man. So really he should stay true to the authors depiction of him. If not how long after a coloured James Bond would we have to wait for a female Jane Bond?

Just as a thought.......any thoughts on a candidate for a female Bond anyone??? Judi Finnigan? Jo Brand? Trisha?

But seriously.....

Kate Beckinsale?  Catherine Zeta Jones? Keira Knightly?

 

 

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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2007, 10:30:23 am »
Dawn French.
 

When I was a child, I had a storybook about a small white child, the son of missionaries living and working in Africa, who made friends with a small black child. The book was called Fuzzy Wuzzy and Pinkie's Adventures.  I was given it for good attandance at Sunday School.
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2007, 09:27:08 pm »
Mum had a book called 'The Adventures of Little Black Sambo'...........
 

Thank goodness we have all moved on from the time when we found such things acceptable.

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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2007, 10:06:14 pm »
I think we should petition Robertsons to put the golly back on the jam jars. When I was small I ate a lot of jam to collect the tokens and collect my golly badges and ornaments.
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2007, 10:07:16 pm »



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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2007, 10:08:08 pm »







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« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2007, 10:46:20 pm »
They're different Lou. I'm not sure I'd want one! LOL
And the little Black Sambo picture...was that a TV programme aswell as a book then?

How did people get away with things like that? It's like another world!!!

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« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2007, 11:13:50 pm »
i uised to have a Gollywog. i saw a shop last year which actually still sold them - of course, they're just called Gollys now. wjp6662007-06-23 22:14:55
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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2007, 02:02:31 am »
I tried to post about Little Black Sambo earlier but it wouldn't work - funny that you mentioned it Scarlet!  I had the book and it was a favourite of mine - something about his mum making loads of pancakes out of tiger ghee and Little Black Sambo ate more than anybody else after all his adventures.  I think he was quite a hero - there wasn't anything nastily racist about it that I recall.
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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2007, 05:22:52 am »
No I don't believe there was. My mum says that as a child it was one of her favourite books.
Today it would be seen as racist and I wonder if it was or if that is just what todays perception of it would make it?
I still think it is a good thing that as a rule name calling of that sort is recognised as an insult these days and not just accepted as something you say.

It is a small step, but at least it is a forward step.

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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2007, 10:37:51 am »
I don't think it was racist in the predjudice sense, but it was stereotyping black people and casting them in the 'simple but cute' role. They were also always subserviant so it harks back to slavery.
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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2007, 02:04:57 pm »

Well here is the story, if anyone is interested. 



 

You can apparently still buy it new from Amazon so presumably it can't have been that bad.
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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2007, 02:30:37 pm »
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