can someone identify this chocolate bar?

[wonkabar32]

Its around 100g, around the same size as a galaxy bar,here in the uk.
Is it a supermarket value brand or another? I am trying to find out specifically which.
Thanks for any help ..as shown here:

[oldspice]

Er, do you think it might be a Wonka Bar, by any chance??

[Rainbow]

Wasn't there a wrapper on the chocolate when you bought it? In the UK there must be wrapping that states the name of the product, it's contents (in case of allergies etc etc) and it's use by/best before date. That's the law.

I would never buy a bar of chocolate without a wrapper, ever. It might not be safe to eat... YUK

[wonkabar32]

Sorry for the late reply. yes, its one of those dodgy wonka bars. They are being sold on the high street and on the bay, and I didn't realize they were all unofficial until after purchasing (supposedly only nestle are allowed to make them). I knew they would be just cheap chocolate rewrapped, I had no problem with that, but after watching a program on tv telling me to avoid them completely for hygiene reasons, and the fact that they may be home made or very low quality chocolate sold at a high price to con the public,  I just had to try and find out if the bar above was from a true brand or not. You can tell the wonkas I have are not right when you notice the best before date on the silver foil does not match the date on the back of the wrapper.

The chocolate inside is not always the same either (i bought online and high st to compare). Sometimes its the star lidl-like bar inside, other times its the lined one above. The generic lined mold and very flakey chocolate heavily suggests a home-made job made in questionable conditions, but theres still a chance it may just be an unknown to me european cheap ass chocolate. I have actually found the exact chocolate pattern online, labelled as european 'cooking chocolate', but the site does not give it a name. Nice.

[Rainbow]

I am skipping over the whole idea that anyone would deliberately buy knock off chocolate bars to ask you, if you knew all that, (and I think that's an awful lot to know about a bar of chocolate you professed to not even know the name of.....) then why on earth would you post on here asking us if we knew what it was?
You say you bought one online and one on the high street to compare, so to me that says that you already knew far more about that bar of chocolate than I could tell you just by looking at a picture..
Your entire post is completely illogical.

[wonkabar32]

.. you seem to be a little confused I am afraid before they hit the news, no one knew anything about these bars. From late last year onwards, they have been made and sold in large quantities online and all over the uk, and even on the high street. I bought the bars, both labelled as 'wonka', before I knew anything about them. I am the one questioning where the chocolate content inside these bars might come from. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-22134617

I bought the first bar. No barcode and incorrect labelling and dating on the wonka wrapping on the back (after purchase), was obviously suspect. I then decided to buy one further bar (from another source-online) to compare and to see if they would match. They did not. Different chocolate inside both, slightly different information shown on the back of the wrapper in comparison. This hinted towards the idea that people are just printing out wrappers and putting cheap chocolate inside, to sell at a high price. I then read and saw the media reports on these bars, which also believe that to be true. The wonka labels can even be found online to print if you use google. One bbc tv documentary mentioned them as being either rewrapped cheap chocolate or imported 'home-made' chocolate made from suspect sources, in unknown hygienic conditions, produced on a mass scale. 

I thought there would be more people knowing what bar the chocolate from the wonka one above might truly belong to in here, if it was just rewrapped cheap supermarket chocolate. Upon inspection this would seem to be a chocolate forum (ignoring the amount of forum spam). As a chocolate forum, most would assume it to therefore be the home to more chocolate fans that would have a higher likelyhood of purchasing from multiple sources, and therefore be more likely to know the answer, but thanks anyway.

[Rainbow]

You are correct I am confused by your posts, and I hardly think my confusion is helped at all by your sarcasm, but if it helps you in some odd way then please carry on.

If I had bought a suspect chocolate bar like that I would not have been posting pictures on an internet forum, I would have been talking to someone from trading standards to try and get this potentially dangerous product off the market and the distributors closed down, that would have been the logical next step for me, but then we are each different in our approach to health and safety I suppose.

I hope you manage to find the answers you seek from someone more knowledgeable than I.

[wonkabar32]

Unfortunately stopping the mass distribution of these bars has proven difficult when it's seemingly not just one source. Trading Standards may remove the chocolate and fine stores, but judging by media reports, the source simply sell to another store, or go it alone via their favourite distribution centre, ebay.

Your assumption that I have not questioned the safety of these bars and that no one been informed from the very start is a poor one, so judging by your arrogance in general I have to agree in that I am sure someone out there is more helpful regarding chocolate. A bad day at work no doubt.

You could have actually helped and lowered the amount of spam in these forums by posting your last sentence as your initial reply, but thanks anyway x

[Forth Bridges]

Thats six months down the line, and you can still buy them, If trading standard wanted to do something about them, there could raid the shops.  I know of 10 shops that sell them, all could be raid within 1min...

I do have to say you are being rather rude to Rainbow.

I have always wonder about these has I have brought one and it did seem like Asda/Tesco/lidi 30p bars. 

Wonka bars have come back in the UK since that BBC post, with three new products.

[Forth Bridges]

FROM TODAY!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/shop-selling-asda-chocolate-wonka-2676087

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/chocolate-shop-fined-selling-fake-6268941

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-24806690

A Cwmbran sweet retailer has been prosecuted for selling fake Wonka chocolate bars for 10 times what they were worth, despite being advised by Trading Standards to stop.

Sweet66 Ltd pleaded guilty to eight offences of breaching trademark legislation and misleading consumers into buying value chocolate bars that were fraudulently labelled with Nestlé’s ’WONKA’ trademark without permission. The company was fined £400 for the criminal breaches and asked to pay £1,000 towards the prosecutions costs.

An investigation, led by Torfaen Council's senior trading standards officer Matthew Bartlett, found that Sweet66 Ltd were selling fake Wonka chocolate bars for £3 that were actually repackaged Smart Price chocolate bars from ASDA, which they had bought for just 30p.

Newport magistrates court heard Sweet66 candy store in Cwmbran Shopping Centre had duped consumers into purchasing Wonka-branded chocolate bars that had not been manufactured by Nestlé. The bars also did not meet a number of key consumer protection food labelling laws.           

Sweet66 Ltd, which is owned by Alexander Gwillym, 39, of Llantarnam, Cwmbran, started selling the counterfeit chocolate bars in September 2012 and continued to do so, despite advice from the council's trading standards service.

The Court also heard that Mr Gwillym had made an unsuccessful bid attempt to register his own  ‘Mr Wonka Bar’ trade mark, but was advised that his application was too similar the existing Wonka trademarks, owned by Nestle, and would therefore be likely mislead the public.

Mr Gwillym, the owner and director of Sweet66 Ltd, was found guilty of eight criminal offences of breaching consumer protection legislation (including the Trade Marks Act 1994, the Food Labelling Regulations 1996 and the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008) and was fined £400 with an additional £80 victim surcharge.

Cllr Gwyneira Clark, executive member for housing, planning and public protection, said: "Consumers expect to buy goods, including food, that are correctly labelled in accordance with consumer protection laws.

"The work of Torfaen’s Public Protection service is vital to safeguard the health and economic well-being of the public and this prosecution sends out a message to all retailers that selling counterfeit goods will not be tolerated."

[Rainbow]

Perhaps it would have been a good idea if you had told your full story in your first post?
Then I would have been a whole lot less confused, though honestly I could have been no more help because I have no experience of buying chocolate like this.

I'm afraid I am absolutely no good at mind reading, so unless you tell me that you have questioned the safety of the chocolate I have no way to know that information, therefore the only conclusion left to me is that you have not, because I assumed that if you had you would have mentioned it..
Sadly assumptions are the only things left to me if you choose to leave out important pieces of information.

I think that giving the full story is truly the best way to get the help you're looking for.

You seem to be suggesting that my post is partly responsible for the spam we've had and I'm afraid I don't understand?  Spam like this is taken very seriously here, and the administrator worked very hard to remove it. I do not see the connection between my posts and the spam, but for you to associate me with it is something I find quite offensive.

I thank you for your comment 623, it was very kind of you and I really appreciate it. 



Where did you find your bar of this and which type was it 623?

I've no first hand knowledge if it because I don't generally eat Wonka bars. I do keep trying the occasional bar, but they're far too sweet and always taste a bit cheap to me. Come to think of it I probably couldn't tell them from the cheap stuff they're being switched out with because to me they always tend to taste a lot like cheap chocolate. Shame really, but then it's Nestle you see.

I think it's worrying that the fakes are still on sale after all this time.
Of course the distributors will move on if trading standards close down their outlets, but I still think trading standards should be given the opportunity to do their jobs and prosecute them. Each outlet and eBay seller closed down is one less place to buy them and maybe one step closer to finding the source.

Let's hope they stop them soon.


Edited to put...
The man from Sweet66 in Wales was warned not to sell them any more by trading standards and took no notice? Then they fined him £400 and £1000 costs? That doesn't seem like much of a fine for deliberately breaking the law after you've been warned does it?

[wjp666]

I LOVED the Whipplescrumtiousfudgemallowdelight and Nutty Crunch bars they released when the film came out... but I personally don't go too much on the new ones they've recently launched. Luckily I uave avoided the knock-offs altogether.

[Rainbow]

I can't even pronounce whipplescrumtiousfudgemallowdelight, but it sounds yummy, and the nutty bars might be very bad for me unless the nuts are almonds.

I do like the idea of the new waterfall bars.. Hmmm...