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New crackpot child protection laws + Bounty rant
« on: September 13, 2009, 08:47:32 am »
So, the government in one of its last throws of life is to introduce yet more nannying laws. For example, if someone drops a friend's child off at dancing classes etc, they will have to undergo police checks to prove they have no criminal record.  I assume the government will introduce whole life tariffs for child abusers in order to have consistency in law and order.  No?  Oh yes I forgot, they just want to control our lives, they're not really interested in protecting our children.
Gordon Brown and the rest of his cronies should pull the plug now and call a general election.  This 17 year labour rule will not be judged kindly by historians.  A huge majority in the early years totally wasted with tinkering legislation when real change could have been brought about, e.g renationalisation the railways.  Brown - Go.  And go now!!!  >:(

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Re: New crackpot child protection laws + Bounty rant
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2009, 09:30:57 am »
I'm sorry Bounty but you have misunderstood the way the new legislation will work. Friends can continue to drop other friend's children off at school and other activities. So can members of the child's family. People will only need CRB checks if they form themselves into a club and take turns dropping groups of children off. This might sound a bit silly but it is to bring this arrangements into line with other, commercial ventures that require such legislation.  It's to stop people being able to use loopholes to avoid the law because they have convictions against children.

If you look closely at what this 17 year Labour Government have done, you will see many good things have happened (however, one of them WAS NOT the invasion of Iraq). Firstly, the minimum wage was introduced. Secondly, winter fuel payments were increased. Thirdly, many young parents were encouraged back into the workplace by 'top up' payments that made it beneficial for them to work rather than claim benefits. This helped them to build up their skills, experience and knowledge in the workplace so they could move towards independence form these 'top up' payments. Additionally, many 'Sure Start' schemes were launched to address shortages of facilities for young families in disadvantaged areas. Further, strategies to address the problem of people with poor basic skills were launched. The Adult Core Curriculum - and training for people teaching basic skills on a more casual basis was launched and huge amounts of money has been spent on improving maths and English skills in the adult population. We still have a long way to go - but this government has done more to address this problem than any government in the last 50 years.

I could go on and on. Yes, they could have done more. Yes, I would have liked to see more nationalisation - but then re-nationalisation is very expensive and there were other priorities to tackle. I would definitely liked to have seen the government overturn some of the financial relaxations that were made by Old Bush/Thatcher - that way some of the appalling financial mess we are in would not have happened - but that would have put us at a considereable disadvantage unless America did the same. The government hasn't done a bad job, all things considered and I would not be so quick to put my faith in David Cameron.
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Re: New crackpot child protection laws + Bounty rant
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2009, 10:08:48 am »
I have to agree with these new rules, ( as 75% of all pedo, are know by the family)
there have given DIRECT power of Scottish affairs, built a tone of new hospitals, I dare say have made this county country alot better off during the ress..... the tory would have done nothing! 

I personnel starting to think he could win the next election next may!

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Re: New crackpot child protection laws + Bounty rant
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2009, 12:28:48 pm »
I'm sorry Bounty but you have misunderstood the way the new legislation will work. Friends can continue to drop other friend's children off at school and other activities. So can members of the child's family. People will only need CRB checks if they form themselves into a club and take turns dropping groups of children off. This might sound a bit silly but it is to bring this arrangements into line with other, commercial ventures that require such legislation.  It's to stop people being able to use loopholes to avoid the law because they have convictions against children.

If you look closely at what this 17 year Labour Government have done, you will see many good things have happened (however, one of them WAS NOT the invasion of Iraq). Firstly, the minimum wage was introduced. Secondly, winter fuel payments were increased. Thirdly, many young parents were encouraged back into the workplace by 'top up' payments that made it beneficial for them to work rather than claim benefits. This helped them to build up their...

Hmmm, think you need to get some new spectacles.  Yours are a bit rose-tinted.

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Re: New crackpot child protection laws + Bounty rant
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2009, 12:53:01 pm »
this is why i stay out of politics...
I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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Re: New crackpot child protection laws + Bounty rant
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2009, 01:30:02 pm »
Ooh, things are getting heated!!!

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Re: New crackpot child protection laws + Bounty rant
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2009, 03:48:05 pm »
Is this why Bounty has reverted to being a guest again?

Okay, I didn't want to be the know-all git, but it's a role I play so well ;) so I'll point out that Labour have only been in government for 12 years.
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Re: New crackpot child protection laws + Bounty rant
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2009, 07:28:26 pm »
Well done Smurfy. I should have noticed that!
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Re: New crackpot child protection laws + Bounty rant
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2009, 07:29:20 pm »
I'm sorry Bounty but you have misunderstood the way the new legislation will work. Friends can continue to drop other friend's children off at school and other activities. So can members of the child's family. People will only need CRB checks if they form themselves into a club and take turns dropping groups of children off. This might sound a bit silly but it is to bring this arrangements into line with other, commercial ventures that require such legislation.  It's to stop people being able to use loopholes to avoid the law because they have convictions against children.

If you look closely at what this 17 year Labour Government have done, you will see many good things have happened (however, one of them WAS NOT the invasion of Iraq). Firstly, the minimum wage was introduced. Secondly, winter fuel payments were increased. Thirdly, many young parents were encouraged back into the workplace by 'top up' payments that made it beneficial for them to work rather than claim benefits. This helped them to build up their...

Hmmm, think you need to get some new spectacles.  Yours are a bit rose-tinted.


I simply stated some facts that can be verified by a bit of research.
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Re: New crackpot child protection laws + Bounty rant
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2009, 09:05:08 pm »
where has he gone?

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Re: New crackpot child protection laws + Bounty rant
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2009, 06:11:47 pm »
He's Mutinied!  Get it?  Bounty?  Ho, ho, ho!

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Re: New crackpot child protection laws + Bounty rant
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2009, 01:54:15 pm »
You want crackpot? An Italian man was recently arrested in Brazil for kissing his 8 year-old daughter in a swimming pool. Apparently the couple who reported the 'incident' hadn't realised the girl was his daughter because she's mixed race. So surely once both parents had pointed this out there shouldn't have been a case to answer?
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Re: New crackpot child protection laws + Bounty rant
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2009, 02:00:27 pm »
Unbelievable!
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