The Teddy Bear issue

[oldspice]

Is anyone else totally disgusted with the reaction of the extremists calling for that teacher's death for allowing her class to name a teddy bear Mohammed?

 

OK, she was a bit dumb not to know that it would cause offense.  She is serving a prison sentence for her sins. Isn't that enough?  One idiot speaking on the radio said "she is in this country and should stick to our customs and culture".  Fair enough - but do Muslims living here do that? No chance!

 

I rarely speak out in these cases as I think people should be free to practise their customs, culture and religion as they see fit whatever  country they are living in but I think these extremists are opening Muslims living in other countries up to a lot of hassle by calling for such and over-the-top punishment for this poor woman. 

 

 

 

 

I believe those in charge were happy to put "one over" the old imperialists.

However on a wider theme, to me, it appears as though Muslims are happy to accept the victim status trotted out by the extreme wings of their "Religion". The messages sent out by Al Qaeda and their like are increasingly finding favour with more and more of the population and the moderates are not willing or capable of tackling these views and debunking the myths propogated in the name of Islam.

It is my firm belief that a full scale war against Islamic forces (or those extremists who purport Islam is under attack) will happen sooner rather than later.

Yes, I understand their grievances in places such as Palestine but such complicated issues are not one sided.

America should not have invaded Iraq? Very probably not, unless you have a consistent foreign policy (Zimbabwe?). However it is not US/Allied soldiers killing the populace there. It is Muslims, brother against brother. How does that square with the teachings of the Koran?

[loulou]

Will i be ok naming my hamster Buddha?

[wjp666]

i don't mean to discriminate, but i'm sick to death of Muslims and there ways.

[loulou]

me too. Thjy should all go back to where they came from , and the ones that were born here should keep their mouths shut. loulou2007-12-01 23:13:17

[oldspice]

I believe those in charge were happy to put "one over" the old imperialists.

However on a wider theme, to me, it appears as though Muslims are happy to accept the victim status trotted out by the extreme wings of their "Religion". The messages sent out by Al Qaeda and their like are increasingly finding favour with more and more of the population and the moderates are not willing or capable of tackling these views and debunking the myths propogated in the name of Islam.

It is my firm belief that a full scale war against Islamic forces (or those extremists who purport Islam is under attack) will happen sooner rather than later.

Yes, I understand their grievances in places such as Palestine but such complicated issues are not one sided.

America should not have invaded Iraq? Very probably not, unless you have a consistent foreign policy (Zimbabwe?). However it is not US/Allied soldiers killing the populace there. It is Muslims, brother against brother. How does that square with the teachings of the Koran?

 

I agree with you entirely Paul and I think that rational-thinking Muslims are going to suffer at the hands of these loonies because people will become tired of the whole thing and brand them all the same.  That is already happening. I am already finding myself getting irritated by people who use their religion and beliefs to gain advantage.

Firstly Shari'a law is rather vague on this matter.  Although naming an animal after the prophet is barred, I don't think there's a rule specifically for teddy bears.  All ordinary muslims to the last man have condemned Sudan's ridiculous response to this.  The trouble with extremeist like these nutters in Sudan is that they so conveniently interpret (normally incorrectly) bits of the Q'aran that suit them. What about Allah the most merciful?  Hardly merciful jailing for 15 days someone who named a teddy bear Mohammed.  

A number of apologists for this action have used the argument that you wouldn't call a teddy bear Jesus Christ, God bless him, but then Christians don't give his name to half their sons!

At a time when ordinary muslims are suffering unfair treatment, this issue has done them no favours whatsoever. It's good that the moderate majority have spoken out.

[smurfboy]

Things like this happen and then Muslims wonder why so many people are sick to the back teeth of having to 'respect' the values of Islam. Once again I'm glad I'm an atheist.

I'm agnostic, myself.

That's of course until I make my way to heaven. Not that I believe in it, but hey, you always need a plan b.

Oh boy!

The Imams will have a field day with this one!

 

http://www.teddybearmuhammad.com/

paulham2007-12-02 19:13:56

[loulou]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mohammed-teddy-bear_W0QQitemZ230198892607QQihZ013QQcategoryZ117QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Forth Bridges]

A: there should have jailed the kids! the dam kids fault!

B: who invited iraq? UK un 1920

who invited half of the middle east? UK ans eupore for oil

C: there all bad!

And on the Ebay theme (not teddy related though), I nearly died laughing at this piece of puerile nonsense!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/31/ebay_box_sale/

[MayRae]

I agree with 623058's point A.

The bit that I thought most relevant, that people seemed to ignore was that she only 'allowed' her class to call the teddy Mohammad. I understand that she was the adult in charge, but it was not her idea to give it that name, it was the choice of the whole class.

Surely the worst that should have happened was a reprimand for allowing it, for the teacher, and a lesson in their countries laws and religion for the kids?

And thankyou Paulham for the link to the nonsense. I would say that there is no way it could be a real auction, but I have seen stranger things for sale on eBay, so I'm saying nothing.

[loulou]

I once seen toenail cuttings for sale on ebay and the auction ran for 4 days and the toenails went for 12. loulou2007-12-08 21:32:15