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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2005, 05:18:32 pm »

If were talking about people wronged in the world of football, what about Justin Fashanu? No minute's silence for him when he died. Sure, Gazza is a drunken wife-beater and thug, but still considered a hero, the great Bestie's problems were largely self-inflicted, Graham Rix is a convicted sex offender yet still got the manager's job at Hearts - but god forbid anyone should acknowledge a gay man played the game.

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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2005, 05:30:40 pm »

I never rated Gazza. Pele was awesome, probably the best player I've ever seen on the pitch. Bobby Moore was a great talent also. Last summer Peterborough United played Manchester United's first team in a friendly in honour of the great repect that Barry Fry (PU) and Alex Ferguson (MU) have for each other. The palyer who out-played them all was Van Nistelroy (I can't spell his name!). Totally stunning.


We held them to a 0 - 0 draw until half time them they slaughtered us 0 6.

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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2005, 08:23:54 pm »

You got me bang to rights Lou, I meant Mercurial.  It was a typo, I know how to spell it.


I think we have strayed from the point slightly.  I didn't deliberately disclude Bobby Moore but he wasn't as good a footballer as Best and certainly not as good as Matthews who was not only a fantastic all round talent but was also phenomenally fit and well ahead of his time in terms of his vision of the game.


Gazza was a good footballer but not in the same league as even Moore.  Justin Fashanu was a good player and it was tragic the way he died.  The fact that he was gay is neither here or there. 


As for Pele.  Well...


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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2005, 08:27:39 pm »

Well why did they ignore him when everyone else gets a minutes silence? Hell, if the man who marks out the pitch dies they have a minutes silence!

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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2005, 09:52:04 pm »
Bobby Moore should have got a minute's silence if that's who you mean by 'he'.  If he didn't it was a poor show.

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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2005, 09:54:35 pm »
I think he meant Fashanu.  I wouldn't say that Bobby Moore was a less good player than Best - he was a defender so not so noticeable - or good looking!. 
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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2005, 10:00:14 pm »
I don't think Fashanu was high profile enough for a minute's silence.  That's not my opinion just a perception. 

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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2005, 07:05:10 am »

We are all too young to remember Billy Wright but I have seen film of him playing in the 50s and he too was a fantastic player.


Fashanu was terrific but like Best, his private life ecplised his football career.

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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2005, 08:46:25 am »
A lot of people were of the opinion that my husband's distant cousin would have been the greatest player of all time.  He was one of the Busby Babes killed in the air crash - Duncan Edwards.  I have a video about him but have never actually got round to watching it!
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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2005, 10:47:29 pm »

PETER TATCHELL says it was homophobia that ultimately destroyed the career and life of football star Justin Fashanu.

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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2005, 07:05:40 am »
I am sure he is right. However, I do not approve of Tatchell's methods of 'outing' people as homosexuals. If they want to reveal their sexuality, that's fine, but it's not up to Tatchell top do it for them.
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« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2005, 10:03:27 am »
That's very true.
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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2005, 01:54:37 pm »
The only circumstances in which I think it was fair was with certain MPs who voted in favour of the evil Section 28 and against an equal age of consent. That kind of hypocrisy deserves 'punishment'. If people are just happily getting on with their lives and value their privacy I think that should be respected.
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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2005, 04:41:12 pm »
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« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2005, 09:31:51 pm »
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