Post by: aveit101 on October 05, 2004, 12:26:05 pm
I dont think anyone but the orangey bit knows!!
Post by: aveit101 on October 05, 2004, 12:26:33 pm
Wot do u lot think
Post by: chocolate chick on October 05, 2004, 01:06:18 pm
Post by: on October 05, 2004, 01:07:19 pm
There's no way a jaffa cake is a biscuit. It's too soft and has the wrong texture. It has some qualities of a cake, but really it belongs in it's own genre - Jaffa Cakes et al.
Post by: on October 05, 2004, 04:01:49 pm
We fought the EU and WE won-cake.
Post by: lemoneye on October 06, 2004, 09:35:58 am
Post by: chocolate chick on October 06, 2004, 10:13:21 am
Post by: aveit101 on October 06, 2004, 12:10:30 pm
Some very good points
Post by: on October 06, 2004, 08:25:14 pm
Cake: A sweet, baked confection usually containing flour, sugar, flavouring ingredient, eggs and baking powder or baking soda.
Biscuit: A sweet, normaly hard baked 'bread' of flour, butter milk, baking powder and a shortening agent.
It seems from looking at several recipes, biscuits may or may not contain eggs, whereas cake is rarely is devoid of them.
Can someone check the box of jaffa cakes to illuminate this point as that may clinch it.
Incidentally biscuit is from the French bis cuit 'cooked twice'.
Post by: oldspice on October 06, 2004, 10:17:56 pm
Post by: on October 07, 2004, 09:24:43 am
In my sainsbury's they put honey next to marmalade. But they are not the same.
Post by: lemoneye on October 07, 2004, 09:52:12 am
I will reiterate my point over dictionary definitions.
I know in the film, The Revenge Of The Nerds, that the "nerds" the bookwormy, dictionary definition brigade won the day...
BH - did you get bullied as a child?
Post by: chocolate chick on October 07, 2004, 09:57:12 am
I tell you what I would like to see.....a bigger version of the jaffa cake so it would be like a cake!
Has anyone seen those tiny jaffa cakes?
Post by: lemoneye on October 07, 2004, 10:12:07 am
And what about Kendall Mint CAKE?
Is that really a cake??
What about SHAMPOO? Or would you prefer REAL poo?
Some things do not bear too close an examination...
Post by: on October 07, 2004, 12:01:15 pm
Post by: chocolate chick on October 07, 2004, 01:16:11 pm
Mmmm Kendal Mint Cake is lovely!
Post by: on October 07, 2004, 02:24:57 pm
And what about Kendall Mint CAKE?
Is that really a cake??
Yes a cake of mint!
Mmmmmm, choc covered Kendal mint cake.
Post by: on October 07, 2004, 02:26:33 pm
We fought the EU and WE won-cake.
It was to save VAT or something similar i believe.
Post by: chocolate chick on October 07, 2004, 02:52:53 pm
Post by: aveit101 on October 07, 2004, 03:14:04 pm
Post by: oldspice on October 07, 2004, 07:54:42 pm
I love mint cake too. And Bounty - if Jaffa cakes were a cake they'd be in the cake section - not the biscuit section! It's got bugger all to do with honey and marmalade!
Post by: on October 08, 2004, 09:36:57 am
There's only one thing for it - I'll contact McVitee's. I'll let you know their response.
Post by: on October 08, 2004, 02:04:31 pm
Here is United Biscuit's, who run McVite's response to my email this morning.
Dear Andy
Jaffa Cakes are actually classed as a cake.
Regards
Consumer Services Department
Post by: chocolate chick on October 08, 2004, 02:26:10 pm
Post by: lemoneye on October 08, 2004, 02:50:11 pm
Post by: oldspice on October 08, 2004, 03:43:44 pm
I'd better take them out of my biscuit barrel then!
Post by: Sugar on October 08, 2004, 04:01:15 pm
Sad but true I know the answer to this one.
VAT is payable on biscuits but not cakes. The Vatman argued they were biscuits as that was where they are stored in the supermarket. McVities won though saying they were cakes - the scientific experiment in court was that cakes go hard when left out of a tin and biscuits go soft. M&S used same argument a couple of years ago re their chocolate teacakes (Yum).
Post by: loulou on October 10, 2004, 04:32:54 pm
Oldspice i am keeping mine in my biscuit barrel.
I buy them from the biscuit aisle and when i shop online Tesco have them listed in their biscuit section so i don't accept they are cakes.
Post by: oldspice on October 10, 2004, 05:07:10 pm
Post by: on October 10, 2004, 09:21:25 pm
Post by: on October 10, 2004, 09:49:59 pm
Post by: chocolate chick on October 11, 2004, 11:00:15 am
Post by: loulou on October 11, 2004, 06:22:01 pm
BISCUIT. but if you stack them on top of one another they could look like a cake.
Post by: on October 11, 2004, 08:42:45 pm
You lot want your cake and eat it!
Bounty is right, they are cakes not biscuits.
Shops might put them in the biscuit aisle but then that is their choice.
Lemoneye, Lemoneye, the shampoo argument is awful.
Post by: oldspice on October 12, 2004, 08:58:26 am
Post by: lemoneye on October 12, 2004, 09:38:55 am
Awful argument maybe, but relevant - which you didnt deny, and i thankyou for acknowledging its validity.
To be honest, i couldnt give a monkeys if its a cake or a biscuit, but i think you are right - correct descriptions and definitions AT ALL TIMES please... we'll have no slang terms, no nicknames, and no regionalisms. If it is not as quoted in the dictionary then woe betide those who may or may not incur the wrath of the "Grammar Police"
Weak
Post by: goldencup on October 12, 2004, 09:41:56 am
Post by: lemoneye on October 12, 2004, 09:44:50 am
Post by: chocolate chick on October 12, 2004, 11:32:52 am
My spelling isn't always correct and some of my grammar is not always correct either....
Post by: on October 12, 2004, 01:21:07 pm
Awful argument maybe, but relevant - which you didnt deny, and i thankyou for acknowledging its validity.
To be honest, i couldnt give a monkeys if its a cake or a biscuit, but i think you are right - correct descriptions and definitions AT ALL TIMES please... we'll have no slang terms, no nicknames, and no regionalisms. If it is not as quoted in the dictionary then woe betide those who may or may not incur the wrath of the "Grammar Police"
Weak
Bullseye!
What was that earlier post, Lemoneye, about being "sucked in"?!
Post by: aveit101 on October 12, 2004, 02:00:55 pm
Post by: lemoneye on October 12, 2004, 07:13:32 pm
Quote from: lemoneyeAwful argument maybe, but relevant - which you didnt deny, and i thankyou for acknowledging its validity.
To be honest, i couldnt give a monkeys if its a cake or a biscuit, but i think you are right - correct descriptions and definitions AT ALL TIMES please... we'll have no slang terms, no nicknames, and no regionalisms. If it is not as quoted in the dictionary then woe betide those who may or may not incur the wrath of the "Grammar Police"
Weak
Bullseye!
What was that earlier post, Lemoneye, about being "sucked in"?!
Oh please... spare me....
How about i write in orange crayon? Will it make me easier to understand?
Post by: oldspice on October 12, 2004, 08:12:17 pm
Post by: on October 12, 2004, 09:42:25 pm
Post by: loulou on October 12, 2004, 09:55:15 pm
Post by: on October 12, 2004, 09:57:11 pm
What is that saying?
" An enigma wrapped in a mystery tied up in a puzzle"
Misquote?
BH will keep me right!
Post by: loulou on October 12, 2004, 10:00:04 pm
Post by: on October 12, 2004, 10:01:37 pm
Post by: loulou on October 12, 2004, 10:02:42 pm
Post by: chocolate chick on October 13, 2004, 10:19:00 am
Post by: aveit101 on October 13, 2004, 12:18:28 pm
Post by: goldencup on October 13, 2004, 01:46:05 pm
Enigma is a great name for a chocolate bar.
Post by: loulou on October 13, 2004, 06:56:34 pm
Post by: aveit101 on October 14, 2004, 03:33:49 pm
Splop bar is a great name 4 a chocolate bar
Post by: loulou on October 15, 2004, 06:14:00 pm
Post by: marble on October 15, 2004, 08:50:17 pm
Post by: loulou on October 15, 2004, 10:54:07 pm
Post by: oldspice on October 15, 2004, 10:58:40 pm
Post by: loulou on October 15, 2004, 10:59:36 pm
Post by: Bunny on October 16, 2004, 09:22:59 am
There have been some very heated philosophical debates over the centuries (do humans really have souls? Does anything really exist outside language? Is there an after-life?) But the Jaffa Cake - biscuit or cake? debate never stops. However, as the great deconstructionist Derrida has now died, it is unlikely that this problem will ever truly be solved.
Post by: aveit101 on October 19, 2004, 12:20:58 pm
Post by: loulou on October 19, 2004, 12:30:44 pm
Post by: aveit101 on October 19, 2004, 01:33:58 pm
Post by: chocolate chick on October 19, 2004, 02:59:04 pm
Post by: loulou on October 26, 2004, 02:45:25 am
Post by: on October 26, 2004, 09:11:43 am
You actually believe that don't you Lou Lou
Post by: loulou on October 26, 2004, 01:09:21 pm
Post by: lemoneye on October 27, 2004, 09:39:03 am
Post by: on October 27, 2004, 09:39:56 am
I'd say they were more like bites.
15 bites, a mere snack!
Post by: lemoneye on October 27, 2004, 09:46:34 am
Post by: on October 27, 2004, 09:48:21 am
None of that full moon, half moon crap!
Total eclipse, every time.
Post by: lemoneye on October 27, 2004, 09:52:22 am
Post by: chocolate chick on October 27, 2004, 12:40:36 pm
Post by: loulou on October 27, 2004, 10:11:57 pm
Post by: one_serious_chocoholic on October 28, 2004, 12:05:07 am
I'm trying to be a nibbler....in reality, I'm a scoffer! 
Oh, to have the will power....
Post by: chocaholic on October 31, 2004, 03:20:45 pm
jaffa cakes are something i ve never got used to eating its too orangey imo 
hello by the way im new just joined
Post by: one_serious_chocoholic on October 31, 2004, 08:14:54 pm
Hello chocaholic!! Welcome.
Like the name 
Post by: chocolate chick on November 08, 2004, 11:22:27 am
Post by: aveit101 on November 11, 2004, 03:28:52 pm
who wants to hear my chocolate song
Choco Choco Chocolate chocolte chocolate
Post by: loulou on November 14, 2004, 10:57:38 pm
Post by: aveit101 on November 15, 2004, 12:23:03 pm
yeah id go far
Post by: loulou on November 15, 2004, 06:42:05 pm
Post by: aveit101 on November 16, 2004, 10:43:38 am