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Title: Oliver Twist may be father of MJ's daughter Paris.
Post by: loulou on August 10, 2009, 08:50:16 am: Mark Lester who played Oliver is claiming he donated his sperm and may be the father of Paris.
Who would you rather have as your father, Michael Jackson or Oliver Twist?
Title: Re: Oliver Twist may be father of MJ's daughter Paris.
Post by: goldencup on August 10, 2009, 09:28:13 am: I loved Mark when I was a kid - I bet he has good genes!
Title: Re: Oliver Twist may be father of MJ's daughter Paris.
Post by: smurfboy on August 10, 2009, 02:01:39 pm: I know whose will I'd rather be in!

I read the other day that the kids have only just been told Debbie Rowe is their biological mother. They must have been incredibly sheltered from the 'outside world' to not have found this out somehow.
Title: Re: Oliver Twist may be father of MJ's daughter Paris.
Post by: oldspice on August 11, 2009, 08:30:52 am: If Debbie Rowe is their biological mother, who is their biological father? It's not MJ since if it was, they would be mixed race and they most definitely are not.
Title: Re: Oliver Twist may be father of MJ's daughter Paris.
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on August 11, 2009, 01:36:02 pm: I heard that the doctor is saying he's the biological father of the eldest two.
Title: Re: Oliver Twist may be father of MJ's daughter Paris.
Post by: oldspice on August 11, 2009, 06:51:32 pm: I don't think that can be right either as the children would still be mixed race. The little girl at least definitely has two white biological parents.
Title: Re: Oliver Twist may be father of MJ's daughter Paris.
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on August 12, 2009, 10:31:29 am: Quote from: oldspice on August 11, 2009, 06:51:32 pm
I don't think that can be right either as the children would still be mixed race. The little girl at least definitely has two white biological parents.

We must be thinking of different doctors - the one I read about is definitely white:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/07/19/jacko-s-doctor-to-stake-custody-claim-on-his-kids-saying-i-m-the-daddy-115875-21530386/ (http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/07/19/jacko-s-doctor-to-stake-custody-claim-on-his-kids-saying-i-m-the-daddy-115875-21530386/)
Title: Re: Oliver Twist may be father of MJ's daughter Paris.
Post by: oldspice on August 12, 2009, 11:13:43 am: It's probably me getting wrong Cherry. I thought I saw a picture of MJ's physician and the picture was of a black guy but I didn't pay close enough attention to the caption under the picture to be sure it was a picture of the doctor. It's very naughty of me to comment at all really because MJ's death holds no interest for me at all. If that sounds callous it's because I have attended four funerals since March - all of people well-known to me and next Monday a dear friend who died in a road accident last week is being buried. That's five funerals - and as I will also be attending a wedding at the end of next week it seems my life has become a bizzar reverse parody of a film.
Title: Re: Oliver Twist may be father of MJ's daughter Paris.
Post by: drterror666 on August 12, 2009, 12:05:50 pm: OK, I admit it. I'm their father...
Title: Re: Oliver Twist may be father of MJ's daughter Paris.
Post by: loulou on August 16, 2009, 08:13:51 pm: and i admit i am michael jackson.
Title: Re: Oliver Twist may be father of MJ's daughter Paris.
Post by: oldspice on August 16, 2009, 09:29:19 pm: I read the story in the Daily Mail yesterday(not my usual paper, hubby picked it up on the train to get the Tesco vouchers!). Apparently, MJ and Mark were good friends due to MJ contacting ML back in the 1980s because Oliver was one of MJ's favourite films.

According to ML's ex-wife, ML is crazy and is cashing in on a long dead friendship. ML counter-cliams that his ex-wife is an alchoholic (all good Daily Mail stuff I believe).

It seems that for the first two children, ML sent his sperm which was inseminated into Debbie Rowe. For the third child (mysteriously called Blanket) ML's sperm fertilised a donor egg, which was then inplnated into a surrogate mother.

I am horrified that such things are allowed. How can someone be allowed to just make a baby out of bits and bobs donated by friends and then carried by a third party? Doesn't a child deserve a proper family, a proper extended family? Doesn't a child, as far as is possible, have the right to be created in love and not just at the whim of a sad, damaged pop star with too much money?

Am I being too harsh?
Title: Re: Oliver Twist may be father of MJ's daughter Paris.
Post by: smurfboy on August 17, 2009, 02:14:41 pm: I think if a child isn't going to be in any way biologically yours, why not adopt a child and give them a better life?
Title: Re: Oliver Twist may be father of MJ's daughter Paris.
Post by: oldspice on August 17, 2009, 09:37:01 pm: Good idea Smurfy - although Idoubt whether manyadoption agencies would have been too keen to sign up MJ. he didn't seem the most balanced of individuals. However, it seems he did have a great love for his children - however they were conceived.
Title: Re: Oliver Twist may be father of MJ's daughter Paris.
Post by: smurfboy on August 18, 2009, 02:10:10 pm: Sadly I think for celebs it's how much cash you've got rather than how suitable a parent you would be that counts. What adoption agency would give 50 year-old, recently divorced Madge who works at Iceland a child? Change Madge to Madonna and make her a popstar however, and it's a piece of cake.