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Chat => General => Topic started by: loulou on September 23, 2008, 08:29:36 pm
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The Sun reports that Coronation Street's Becky Grainger is to be plagued by a paedophile policeman seeking revenge. Detective Constable Hooch tried to seduce Becky - played by Katherine Kelly - when she was 15.
Is this just copying the paedo storyline in Eastenders?
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Probably. Why do the soaps have to pursue these distasteful story lines? The wife-beating in Emmerdale is also unwatchable.
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Probably. Why do the soaps have to pursue these distasteful story lines?
Because soaps are supposed to reflect real life. I'm surprised that you, as someone who is so concerned about paedophilia, is against something that will raise awareness of the dangers.
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Is this just copying the paedo storyline in Eastenders?
I don't think so - these storylines are planned months in advance, and it's not as if it's that similar just because they both involve the topic of paedophilia. On that basis you could say Eastenders are copying Corrie because they did a paedophilia storyline in 2001, or Brookside in 1993.
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Firstly I'm not overly concerned with paedophilia, I just think those that abuse children should be punished more severly. I would also say that the storyline in Eastenders is not about paedophilia but about an inappropriate relationship involving an under age girl. Sorry to sound pedantic but I think these are important points.
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I didn't mean to be rude - I just know paedophilia is something you feel very strongly about, so I was surprised at your response to the storylines. And as Tony and Whitney's relationship in EastEnders began when she was 12, I would call that paedophilia.
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You wasn't being rude, no offence taken. I wasn't aware of the original storyline. Yes, sexual contact with a 12 year old is rape and certainly what most people would consider paedophillia. As for my objection to the story lines, surely what we need are serious documentaries discussing the issue, not sensationalisation in Soaps, which will just further misinform an already paranoid public.
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I agree serious documentaries are useful, but a 12 year-old girl in a similar situation who wouldn't even consider watching such a documentary is perhaps more likely to watch something like EastEnders (and therefore more likely to view the information on the website or ring a helpline).
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Yes, that's a good point
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I've stopped watching it but I gather the creepy bastard in Eastenders has changed MO from being a groomer to predator. An unlikely scenario.
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Apparently he only likes girls under 16 so is moving in on his next victim...the young Branning girl.
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Lauren (Madeline) is only 14 but looks 12 - a particularly disturbing plot twist. I take on board exactly what Smurboy said but to have this on a Soap at prime time is soooo horrible.
Now Suzy Branning played by Maggie O'Neil - Woooooohooooooooooooooooooooooo! What a bird! Bounty wants.
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Maggie is almost as funny in Eastenders as she was in Shameless.
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Now Suzy Branning played by Maggie O'Neil - Woooooohooooooooooooooooooooooo! What a bird! Bounty wants.
It's those big lips, isn't it ;)
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From what I can tell, yes those too! :o
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Maggie is almost as funny in Eastenders as she was in Shameless.
Her character in Shameless was bloody hysterical. I had to stop watching because my sides ached so much.
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Aren't you more of an arse, man?
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So the sicko has been caught. I'm not sure how well researched this plot line was. I think the BBC copped out a little with this one, making the victim somewhat ambiguous by introducing the fact that she was abused and therefore raped as a 12 year old, even though the current character is clearly nubile. The introduction of Lauren (who is very, very pretty but has the sexuality of Olive Oyle) as a potential new victim was silly. I still believe that this has no more than sensationalised and dramatised child abuse by making the victim appear to be a willing participant. What exactly are the BBC trying to achieve here? Can I have my licence fee back? Garbage. I won't be watching Eastenders again.
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I think they're trying to show that what constitutes abuse isn't black and white. Whitney doesn't see herself as an abused child because she's been very cleverly manipulated into believing Tony genuinely loved her. It also makes things difficult for Bianca, who is torn between seeing a young woman who clearly believes she's had a consensual relationship (and in a sense has 'stolen' her fiancee) and knowing a child of 12 was in no position to consent to such a relationship. To me that's the opposite of a cop-out; they've highlighted the difficulty of the issue.
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But abuse is black and white. What constitutes a relationship might not be though.
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I don't watch EastEnders much these days but I did see last night's episode and I think the writers have done a magnificent job in portraying a realistic example of how these men work. I can't go into details but I have witnessed such a man in action and his victim's response. It was exactly like that portrayed on EastEnders. The vicitm was completely convinced that: a) he loved her and b) she did all the running. Even today, at the age of 50, the victim in question believes SHE led HIM astray and that HE was punished because of HER. She blames her own sexual pervocativeness for evoking her abusers response.
I thought both actresses performed superbly.
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But abuse is black and white. What constitutes a relationship might not be though.
What I'm trying to say is that child abuse takes many forms; it's not necessarily a weird-looking man in a dirty mac grabbing an innocent crying child and pulling them into an alleyway. EastEnders were very brave in casting a relatively young, very 'normal' looking actor, who I must say did a great job with a very difficult part.