Post by: wjp666 on June 19, 2007, 08:38:50 pm
i'm an adult. yet we live in a country where other adults can decide what is acceptable for me to see/play. isn't there something horribly wrong here?
just wondering if anyone on this siten is pro-censorship?
Post by: Valor on June 19, 2007, 09:09:49 pm
Post by: oldspice on June 19, 2007, 09:31:20 pm
There is also the issue of irresponsible shops selling games passed as 18+ only to much younger children. Some years ago, when my daughter was 15 and looked much younger, a high street store sold her a copy of the violent PS game Grand Theft Auto. She was not even accompanied by an adult.
Post by: on June 19, 2007, 09:34:59 pm
However, some censorship is both necessary and reasonable if the content is likely to be corrupting.
Post by: Forth Bridges on June 19, 2007, 09:42:27 pm
Post by: Valor on June 19, 2007, 09:46:55 pm
Post by: wjp666 on June 19, 2007, 10:16:19 pm
i am a responsible adult. surely i should be allowed to watch/play/listen to what i want (within the boundries of the law)? how can we possibly say that it is okay for another adult to rule that something is too violent/etc. for me to experience?
i owned straw dogs, reservoir dogs, clockwork orange, texas chainsaw (1,2,3,4), evil dead (uncut), snuff, the exorcist, driller killer and i spit on your grave (and many others - all which were banned at one time) on video as a young adult and it never did me any harm.
why should joe public suffer because of the few idiots that let their kids watch adult films etc. it's just not right.
Post by: on June 19, 2007, 10:35:38 pm
Quote from: Valor
I think censorship is a good thing it's just ridiculous stuff like, not allowing kids to play conkers because it's too dangerous. Alot of the things I enjoyed as a child you just can't do now.
"I must say that whilst reporting of health and safety issues in the media is often very good, some myths are perpetuated that can only add to the perception of a compensation culture. The Health and Safety Executive has been accused of: requiring railings on mountains to protect climbers, banning children playing conkers and requiring trapeze artists to wear hard hats. All these are untrue. I can assure you that we do not want our inspectors conducting searches at the school gates for any contraband chestnuts! We want them to monitor the safety of nuclear power plants and offshore drilling platforms, to focus on occupational asthma or tackle real risk on construction sites."
Speech by Timothy Walker, Director General of HSE
Difficult decisions HSEs approach
http://www.hse.gov.uk/risk/timothywalker.pdf
I am sorry but I had to make an exception and comment on this non choc topic as I hate people to think it is anything but some misguided people in positions of relative power (newspaper editors) who like to keep this sort of crap going.
Censorship?
Well if you wallow in the glory of violence, each to their own, but some people do need protected from themselves (and others).
Rant over. (honest)
Post by: Valor on June 19, 2007, 11:07:12 pm
Post by: chocadmin on June 19, 2007, 11:32:41 pm
I agree about adults should have the right to choose etc. etc. , but unfortunately too many parents these days are irresponsible when it comes to allowing kids to watch inappropriate films/games etc. I wouldn't be too worried if we were talking 14+ year olds, but I know an 8 yr old who is allowed to play 18 rated PS2 games (GTA, playboy mansion...). Now I know for the most part this still wouldn't do much harm, but I don't think it would do our society much good in the long run (we're not Japan
).In the case of manhunt 2 the BBFC know this game would get in the hands of young kids and they just don't think it's worth the risk. Maybe the sensible ones among us can import it (if it's any good I still think it'd be a worthy addition to my Wii, although the wife will definitely disapprove).
Post by: smurfboy on June 19, 2007, 11:46:56 pm
Post by: wjp666 on June 20, 2007, 12:35:19 am
I Spit On Your Grave is a great little film... and the uncut version is still banned in this country to this day. (i had to import the R1 version.)
snuff, child porn etc are all illegal... that's the way it should be. but anything else should be available to any consenting adult.
and for those of you who want to play the "but if it gets into the hands of kids it's wrong" card, i have this for you to think about... ALCOHOL is legal. cigarettes are legal. thick bleach is legal (and very deadly.) so if that's the case, what shouldn't we ban?
Post by: smurfboy on June 20, 2007, 01:13:20 am
Post by: oldspice on June 20, 2007, 08:39:16 am
Post by: goldencup on June 20, 2007, 10:16:33 am
Quote from: oldspice
I think this discussion could run and run! I could think of loads more things to say but will quit now because i haven't got the will power!
Sometimes, life is definitely too short.Post by: Valor on June 20, 2007, 11:04:04 am
More nanny state rules. Saw this on tv. Is it true ?
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on June 20, 2007, 11:06:20 am
Post by: on June 20, 2007, 11:13:44 am
Post by: Valor on June 20, 2007, 12:14:42 pm
Post by: Valor on June 20, 2007, 12:28:18 pm
It's ok to advertise Big Macs then
Post by: lorri on June 20, 2007, 03:01:48 pm
Quote from: oldspice
Unfortunately, some adults are not responsible enough to keep films with an adult content such as Staw Dogs etc away from their children. I know a boy of 11 who has watched horrifically violent films such as Pulp Fiction with the blessing of his parents. Until idiots like this do not protect children from such exposure, there will be a need for censorship.There is also the issue of irresponsible shops selling games passed as 18+ only to much younger children. Some years ago, when my daughter was 15 and looked much younger, a high street store sold her a copy of the violent PS game Grand Theft Auto. She was not even accompanied by an adult.
when my daughter was 11 she went to a classmates birthday party, when she came home she was really upset so i asked what was wrong, it turned out the childs father had thought it would be a great birthday "treat" for his daughter and her guests to watch the dvd of the exorcist that he had bought specially for the occasion,to say he soon found out my opinion of his idea of a treat is an understatement 
Post by: goldencup on June 20, 2007, 03:20:10 pm
Something similar happened to my nieces many years ago - the babysitter got in 'The Lost Boys' for them to watch when they were about 7 and 9. They had nightmares for weeks.
Post by: smurfboy on June 20, 2007, 08:09:11 pm
Quote from: paulham
"I must say that whilst reporting of health and safety issues in the media is often very good, some myths are perpetuated that can only add to the perception of a compensation culture. The Health and Safety Executive has been accused of: requiring railings on mountains to protect climbers, banning children playing conkers and requiring trapeze artists to wear hard hats. All these are untrue. I can assure you that we do not want our inspectors conducting searches at the school gates for any contraband chestnuts! We want them to monitor the safety of nuclear power plants and offshore drilling platforms, to focus on occupational asthma or tackle real risk on construction sites."
Speech by Timothy Walker, Director General of HSE
Difficult decisions HSEs approach
http://www.hse.gov.uk/risk/timothywalker.pdf
I am sorry but I had to make an exception and comment on this non choc topic as I hate people to think it is anything but some misguided people in positions of relative power (newspaper editors) who like to keep this sort of crap going.QuoteBut did anyone say the HSE insisted on banning conkers? Wasn't it an individual school?
Post by: on June 20, 2007, 09:01:51 pm
If there are any who actually HAVE said it then remember they are teachers and we all know what small minded wishy washy people they can be!
Post by: loulou on June 20, 2007, 10:31:32 pm
Quote from: Valor
The Special K diet is 2 bowls a day and a meal. They do say it's only for 2 weeks too.
I tried this and gave up on day two as I thought special k was vile.
Post by: goldencup on June 21, 2007, 12:57:57 am
Post by: wjp666 on June 21, 2007, 01:27:23 am