Post by: on October 27, 2005, 02:51:27 pm
What a fudge (fudge ah!), sorry... what a fudge this government's smoking ban is. Apparently smoking will be banned in pubs that serve food. However sausage rolls and crisps wont count as food. Smoking will be allowed in private member clubs.
Personally, I am sick of smokers and their pollution. Why can't we just have an outright ban in all public places as they have got in Ireland and will have soon in Wales and Scotland. Why does England have to be different?
Come on Tony Blair, get wiv de program and give us all cleaner air to breath when we go for a drink and etc.
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 27, 2005, 04:45:38 pm
Post by: smurfboy on October 27, 2005, 06:11:53 pm
Post by: loulou on October 27, 2005, 06:56:23 pm
Post by: oldspice on October 27, 2005, 07:09:31 pm
Post by: on October 27, 2005, 07:55:42 pm
Post by: goldencup on October 27, 2005, 08:27:48 pm
Post by: minty on October 27, 2005, 09:18:10 pm
Post by: on October 27, 2005, 09:27:53 pm
Spare a thought for us who have to enforce it!
Incidentally some said once that if tobacco were to be introduced to the world today, at best, it would be considered a class c drug if not a or b. So why do we learn more and more of its dangers yet carry on like everyone has a right to ignore such findings because we have to give smokers their "rights".
Oh, and don't get me started on alcohol!
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 27, 2005, 10:17:35 pm
Post by: on October 28, 2005, 12:19:36 am
The dichotomy expressed by 623 is a classic example of the 'West Lothian Question'. Notwithstanding this dilemma, I still don't understand why what's good for the Scotland is not sauce for England.
Paul's reference to alcohol is relevant, as while we are considering banning smoking, whatever that means, we are making it easier for people to drink with more lenient licensing laws. While the effects of drinking are not as direct as those of smoking they are actually worse indirectly given the antisocial behaviour and strain on the NHS they create.
I would ban smoking in ALL public places period. Drinking is clearly a different kettle of fish but still needs 'controlling' somehow in order to curb its il effects.
Post by: loulou on October 28, 2005, 12:23:55 am
When I worked at the psychiatric hospital thousands of people came and went with alcohol addiction. Some were as young as 17 hooked on alcopops. I am so against alcopops and think they should be banned.
Post by: lorri on October 28, 2005, 12:25:16 am
Post by: oldspice on October 28, 2005, 10:54:08 am
The alcohol issue is so important. As Lou says, there are thousands of people with serious alcohol addiction - some of them in their teens. As well as the social problems concerned with alcohol addiction (homelessness, being unable to secure or maintain employment, violence etc) the effect on a person's health and mental state is devastating.
Yet in the last ten or fifteen years all we have seen from the government is deregulation concerning the availability of alcohol. In Peterborough we have dozens of clubs and bars where you can drink for twenty hours a day. The government seem to think being able to spread out your drinking will prevent short binges but that's rubbish. Just look at how some Brits behave when on holiday abroad - they drink for a fortnight solidly.
Alcopops? I can't imagine why they are allowed to be manufactured and sold. They exist purely to lure young people into alcohol consumption at an early age. They are deadly. Some of the independent shops where I live will happily sell alcohol - especially alcopops to 14 year-olds, knowing they will get plastered and most likey end up indulging in criminal damamge or GBH.
It's a terrible world we live in.
Post by: loulou on October 28, 2005, 11:50:01 am
Post by: minty on October 28, 2005, 12:02:30 pm
Post by: on October 28, 2005, 12:04:44 pm
Post by: loulou on October 28, 2005, 12:10:30 pm
Post by: minty on October 28, 2005, 12:28:39 pm
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 28, 2005, 12:35:55 pm
firsty gov doesn't cares if we drinnk but if wee smoke it a diffrent ball game!
in scotland (glasgow) the scots' fav is BUCKFAST shame on your scum MONKS!
teh amount of voilent criem because of this is thourgh the roof! adn A&E departmetn are overloaded with drunk *drunk realaeted issies!
it cost teh scottish ecmonye £1billion ayear!
Post by: on October 28, 2005, 08:18:05 pm
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8303-1846833,00.html
Sums up the "culture" to me.
Post by: on October 28, 2005, 08:25:29 pm
Loulou,
Do you know I thought the same?
We?
I wonder what his girlfriend thinks?
Maybe Bounty has two heads?
Meant me
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 28, 2005, 10:16:00 pm
The dichotomy expressed by 623 is a classic example of the 'West Lothian Question'. Notwithstanding this dilemma, I still don't understand why what's good for the Scotland is not sauce for England.
wel many thing are different in scotladn to england liek rolls whci you call bups i think and we stil have scottish pound notes!
But this should I agree with this commet! has anyoen eles notice taht hlaf teh cambint is ful of SCOTTISH MP?
two of the top job PM & chanchol ar scottish?
yet there DO dam all for scotland?
Post by: goldencup on October 28, 2005, 10:18:26 pm
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 28, 2005, 10:23:06 pm
well in scotland ther s white roll - baps:
My gran calls "cob " are softies ithiink
Post by: on October 28, 2005, 10:44:15 pm
| Bupa poll highlights effects of binge drinking |
| Millions of UK drinkers consume over twice the recommended daily amount of alcohol on a single night, while a quarter binge drink regularly, new research shows. A poll of 2,000 adults, conducted by Bupa Wellness, suggested that 11 million Britons binge drink regularly, although the majority are in denial over their drinking habits. Almost half said they did not believe binge drinking would damage their health while almost 70 per cent said that they would not classify themselves as binge drinkers. Using the government's alcohol intake guidelines, Bupa Wellness found that one in three British men and one in five women regularly drank double the recommended amount of alcohol in one sitting. For women, binge drinking would consist of three glasses of wine or six measures of spirits, increasing to four pints of beer or eight measures of spirits for men. According to the study, most were unaware they had been binge drinking and were "confused" by government guidelines on alcohol intake. Bupa Wellness medical director, Dr Peter Mace, said that "almost half of drinkers are baffled by government advice on safe drinking limits" because of the varying strength of drinks. Young men between the ages of 18 and 24 were found to binge drink the most. Bupa said new licensing laws coming into effect in October could mean the government will face a "health time bomb"." |
Post by: on October 29, 2005, 12:35:17 am
well in scotland ther s white roll - baps:
My gran calls "cob " are softies ithiink
Cobs are round and either soft or crusty. A bap is soft and oblong in shape. That's in Nottingham anyway. Roll is a southern word although it is used more and more nowadays as Nottingham is a very cosmopolitan city. In Yorkshire they call soft cobs bread cakes.
Post by: oldspice on October 29, 2005, 06:39:13 pm
Post by: goldencup on October 29, 2005, 06:50:56 pm
I agree, a bap is definitely round.
But long live regional differences, they're what make this country interesting.
Post by: minty on October 29, 2005, 07:16:35 pm
Post by: oldspice on October 29, 2005, 09:53:55 pm
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 29, 2005, 10:57:24 pm
Post by: lemoneye on October 30, 2005, 02:07:59 pm
Post by: smurfboy on October 30, 2005, 02:11:47 pm
People don't kill themselves in Scandinavia because of a lack of ciggies. It's because they are forced to live in the freezing cold with only an hour of daylight a day, eating herring, wearing silly furry hats and listening to depressing folk music.
Post by: oldspice on October 30, 2005, 02:13:46 pm
Japan has a high suicide rate currently
Post by: smurfboy on October 30, 2005, 02:23:44 pm
Post by: nightowl17 on October 30, 2005, 04:35:50 pm
Post by: lemoneye on October 30, 2005, 04:43:10 pm
Haha that was mean!!
Smurfy - its not the ciggies - its the basic rate of income tax - in the region of 50% plus the daylight, plus the carlsberg and the bacon...
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 30, 2005, 04:56:30 pm
Japan has a high suicide rate currently
that because there losing ther jobs!
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 30, 2005, 05:00:44 pm
Post by: nightowl17 on October 30, 2005, 05:13:26 pm
Post by: lemoneye on October 31, 2005, 08:42:55 am
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 31, 2005, 08:49:56 am
I think there RIGHT BAN IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: smurfboy on October 31, 2005, 01:59:30 pm
Post by: loulou on October 31, 2005, 05:54:01 pm
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 31, 2005, 06:00:11 pm
NO~ body should be aloud to drink on Buses OR trains what about everyoen eles !!
!!! Wait ONe memont these a bylaw in scoltand You can't drink in publis if i'm not mistaking that means you can't compusmer achoal on buses / traisn as it PUBLICE transportation!
Post by: loulou on October 31, 2005, 07:05:10 pm
Post by: goldencup on October 31, 2005, 07:07:56 pm
All my son's friends smoke - it drives me mad. They're always hanging around outside the door or puffing out of the window, especially the girls. Apart from any health aspects, I don't know how they afford it.
Post by: loulou on October 31, 2005, 07:08:49 pm
Post by: nutsaboutchoc on October 31, 2005, 08:27:21 pm
Smoking should be banned except if you are 65 or older and have smoked for ever and cant give it up.
Post by: smurfboy on October 31, 2005, 08:29:01 pm
What a load of cock.
Post by: viking on November 01, 2005, 01:11:53 am